Episode 136: Talk w/ Chris Wisnia plus UncleDad hosts Super Movie Password!

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1:37 They're gonna think they're gonna look at the the guest the show notes would be like chris wisnia again man he's gonna be the next co-host trying to take my job chris. But yes without further ado as everybody can tell we have a special guest with us he is truly one of the fondest members i think we have in the uncle dad alumni i really do enjoy talking to him and having him celebrate episode 136 with us because every episode should be a celebration celebration let's give it up for the man the myth the legend chris wisley, I didn't hear the applause for that one What was that Mike?

2:18 Yeah that whatever that thing was Should I have a pause for myself? Chris what is up? How are you? Welcome back to the show Thank you always a pleasure And I was saying earlier Uncle Dad I've been seeing a lot of you But this is a rare treat to have you Joining in as well Mike, Well, like, you know, I decided to finally, or no, Uncle Dad finally decided to let me on the episode with you. I decided. So it was his, he, him. It's my fault. You know, it's not, it's not you. It's not me. It's him. He filled out the permission slip for you to get you on the show.

2:58 I heard you've actually been very busy, Mike. What state are you in, in the United States? States i'm actually in the same state as you know i'm i'm back in california for the for at least throughout the summer i'm in sacramento oh okay allergy capital of california if not the freaking world so here i am and uh and do you realize what this means it's nice to be here it means you're 20 minutes away movie night time bud is it a bruce willis movie because i'll come.

3:40 I had to I had to for those that don't know right I'm a Bruce Willis fan let's just let it out again one more time for everyone, but then I thought you know I think two or three of my favorite movies have him in it so I'll give it to you there you go alright now we can hang, for those uh when we showed the clip look at the back mike you got a bruce willis hello back there. We snuggle we snuggle every night oh what does he say to you he says come out to the coast have a few laughs and i did here i am and good morning everybody that's our intro how's everything, chris so now that you're here properly we're going to give you the proper treatment proper uncle dad how do you do you know i love it and really you know for for those who don't know you've been on a few episodes now i think you've probably been i think the number i have is like 6 or 7.

4:46 Wow. That sounds high. I don't know, dude, because two of them I didn't release, and so there's a total of like 6 or 7, I think. Wow. Yeah, so be proud of that, because not that many people hit that. So we're trying to get you to 10 one day. Then you'll be the Uncle Dan of the night. I'm barely hitting that. You would have hit episode 30 if it weren't for me. You're right, you're right. If it wasn't for you, we wouldn't even be at episode 100. Yeah. Chris, for those who don't know, and I know we've asked this before, but just to kind of kick it off, who are you, what do you do, and why are you so great? I'm Chris Wisnia, and I write and draw comic books.

5:29 I've been doing it for about 20 years. I have a character called Doris Danger, which is an homage and parody of old, terrible comics from the late 50s and early 60s. And the homage part is Jack Kirby and Stan Lee, who right before they did the superhero craze of Marvel, they were doing these giant monster in underpants comics. And I couldn't get enough of them and decided I would do some stories. And next thing I know, I've done volumes and volumes of them. The most recent one was published by Fantagraphics.

6:11 Wow, that's why he's so awesome. Do you agree with that, Mike? Yeah, I'm sorry. I only answered the question, why am I so great? Mike, you still there? I'm here. Hi. Okay. I'm just listening. I'm listening to greatness. You completely... Yeah, I know, you cut on mine too but here I am, I'm here Okay, good I'm just enjoying listening to what greatness sounds like you know, You know, I want to bring this up, so for those who don't know as well, you and Mike here have known each other for a very long time can you elaborate on that for our audience to learn about you guys' relationship?

6:51 Why don't we each share our stories so Bye. We're from the Sacramento area. I live in Davis, which is just over the overpass from greater Sacramento. And when I got out of college in the mid-90s, I started going out to comic conventions. And Sacramento had one, I believe, once every three months. And i i would just go dig through quarter bins basically and mike worked at one of these tables that had quarter bins and at the time how would you describe your your style and and your dress when when i first met you like like some kind of weird mexican gangster.

7:47 Gangster and like a mexican gangster like who listens to rap right and so you have some of that flavor of 90s rap in in your hairstyle and clothes and jewelry right and i i had just come from art school i i was at uc davis in the art department so everybody i knew had you know t-shirts Shirts covered in paint and, you know, big old steel toed shoes that were 15 years old and should have been thrown out 12 years ago. And that's not exactly the look of people you see at comic conventions either.

8:29 You know, I was I was on the the indie art side. And so so seeing you, I thought, I can't imagine we have anything in common. And we just saw each other periodically every three months and then i'd go down to other shows and and mike was just popping up places and then at one point we were both beginning to make comics and have tables of our own at comic conventions and we were selling our own stuff and and at that At that point, I thought, oh, it's that guy who I probably don't have anything in common with. And at some point, we realized we have this comic thing in common, but we have kind of a music thing in common, too.

9:17 And I have to confess, it was kind of a slow process for me getting to know you. And at some point, your vibe kind of changed. And I'm not saying that's what caused our being able to find more in common and to bond better. But I must say, over the years, I have become so damn fond of you, Mike. I just love you to death. And it was one of those friendships that kind of took me by surprise. And it was just a slow thing. And over time, we started just, you know, we're both here.

9:57 Let's talk. You know, maybe I should ask him some questions about himself and the things he likes and things. And it just took some time, but it was very worth it to me. Well, that's so what you're saying is I wasn't weird enough for you at first. Yeah. Right. I was just weird in a different way. No, that's really sweet. I've got kids. kids and when when the kids were in elementary school i i would go to school events and meet all the parents i'd drop off the kids pick up the kids and i i'd meet a lot of parents and i i met a lot of people that that were very nice and you know who who we would see at functions and you know we we would have you know a pumpkin carving party or whatever and and spend time with But I noticed they don't know any of my favorite movies.

10:50 They haven't read a book or they haven't read a comic book. And they certainly haven't read the weird taste comics or books that I enjoy. You know what I mean? You get in these social situations, but you don't really find quite that connection. And so my my early experiences with you it kind of felt like that where oh he's a nice enough guy we're we're in these circles together but i just didn't see where those connections were yet you know what i mean sure yeah well that's pretty i mean that's that's pretty that's pretty right on i mean when i was i was at these conventions every three months they were called satcon and, And they were the sky's right center.

11:33 They're still going. I think they're in a different place now, right? Yeah, and I think they're every three months anymore. Yeah, things have changed. But I was working at a booth. We've mentioned this on the show. I worked for this guy, Steve Wyatt, who I met in my neighborhood. He was the manager of a comic book store. And at the time, I was in the bad circle of other younger kids, teenagers. majors. And so when I met him at his comic store, I was going in to work for comics for him every, you know, a couple of days a week after school. And so then he wanted me to, uh, he asked if I wanted to go work with him and his son at these, at these conventions.

12:13 And I helped him run the table and helped him, you know, lug all the long boxes and short comic boxes and set them up anything. Anyways. Were you into comics, reading comics at that point, or did this kind of get you into comics no i was already reading comics but i couldn't really read them with my other friends that i had made because they were all also thought they were some form of gangster rapper person you know we're like 15 or something 15 16 something like that so you know no one's really a gangster but we we think that we are you know we dress like we we are and you know and so So the comics were like this secret thing I have for a while.

12:55 And yeah, and then I started going to the cons. And then I was working with Steve at this booth. And then we caught someone stealing. And it was Chris. Who the what? Damn, he's a gangster. Yeah, he's not. I was a gangster. You were the real gangster. I was just a poser. I'm sorry. I'm a full committed to 100% of it. But no, yeah, I remember you coming up and you, yeah, according to what my taste was, you wore weird clothes and like stuff that was, you know, I had to wear like brand name or knockoff brand name, you know, like Nike and Fila and Fugu and nonsense like that.

13:37 And you would come and you would buy stuff from the bins. And then I think one time I had my, kind of the same way I met Uncle Dad here. I had my Captain A-hole comics on the table. And one of them was the the how-to comic how to do your own comic and i remember we had a conversation about it i don't remember if you bought one you may have when you were buying other stuff from steve just because i you know like probably talked you into buying it somehow or made you feel like you should buy it probably the same thing i did to uncle dad um at the same building at the same convention in some weird way i remember what happened i was at the table and you were trying to sell it to me and uncle dad came up and i said oh this is him and then i ducked out that makes sense yeah he was he wouldn't stop harassing me he kept saying hey kid i mean you know if anyone knows how to get out of a conversation in a social setting it's chris i found but yeah yeah somewhere in there you know we we started talking and we would talk here and there it shows that probably an ape in san francisco maybe even though san jose one i don't know but it was always like hey and then i remember kind of starting to get to know you yeah and then yeah i did change i think i started growing up and becoming a person, and and then i went to burning man and then i really changed and and so you know.

15:05 But you know what? You, you are always someone who like, I thought was, was way cooler than me in the comic book sense. Like the art that you would bring to your tables, the knowledge you had, the people you were talking to, um, you look like James Franco and you played in a rock band and you were jumping on the stage like a maniac. So I just tried to stay away because I felt like I wasn't cool enough to hang. I'm sorry if I gave you that impression, Mike, I was going to mention also i remember in in those early days it was difficult for me to approach you because you're not a smiler you're more so now but like even just in this conversation you've given some pretty, jabs deadpan and so when you were a kid you know it was just you know hey i i feel like i i would would say, hey, how's it going?

16:03 Hey, we know each other because I've seen you at a number. And it was sort of just sort of that head nod. It was kind of the reaction I felt like I was getting from you. You know what I mean? Sort of this guy doesn't want me getting too close. And again, this is not you. This is just how, as a rock star and amazing comics guy, it affected me. Yeah, well, you know what else helped? It was a lot of therapy throughout my 30s to get through all the reasons why I had to put up all these walls. So there's that too. This is Psychology Today. Welcome to Psychology Today with Uncle Dad.

16:48 That's my next podcast. We're going after you next, Uncle Dad. Oh, please don't. I got enough to deal with. But there is something, really quickly, to tack on what he's saying. I actually do remember that because I remember thinking, and you know what's funny is I always say this. There's always some time where we talk about Mike, and it's always about Mike. So there we go. Who, me? Who, me? Yeah. How much do we love Mike again on this podcast? There we go. But there is something to that, Chris, because I remember when I first met him, truthfully, when I was much younger. And when I had met him, I really enjoyed how he treated me. But there was a sense of intimidation because every time i would see him it was very like hey you know very deadpan hey and then i would say something that i knew was funny and then he would laugh but he would go yeah yeah exactly but you know now you know i was i was 16 when i met of now 34 35 there you go no we're all getting older let us sink in i wish there was a guide for that if only if only if only chris one of the things we never really talked about on the show and i think i really want to highlight this is you are a musician and you're a very fun musician from what i've seen and i want to talk about you your band and your passion for music tell us about mother when i was around nine years old my sister wanted to do piano lessons and my

18:22 mom said what do you think chris does that sound fun i could sign you up too and i went okay and i took to it. And i i wound up playing from then through high school i i did classical recitals i was in the school the high school jazz band we didn't have a great jazz band but but i was just in music a lot I got a keyboard at a young age. I was always writing music and trying to put bands together. And in college, I realized that most of the music I liked was on guitar, not on piano. And so I picked up a guitar and just kept writing music and playing when I could.

19:04 And in 1995, when I graduated from college, we kind of found some friends to start this band, Weird Harold. And what we realized with Weird Harold is if we're high energy music. The the live audiences tend to react better and if if we have a sense of humor the live audiences tend to react better and and so we we kind of crafted these these personas and built built up a song base that that kind of embodied this basically the idea is we have the strut of like 70s funk you know where it's just like yeah i'm the shit you know and and we're just gonna flaunt it but little do we realize that we are not the shit and and so you know we've got our glasses and our ties and and and i play every solo like it's the most amazing thing you've ever heard like like i'm just gonna go for that note but i don't usually hit it but But it's not about hitting it.

20:17 It's about that attitude, right? And so that's kind of the idea with Weird Harold. And I'm the only original member. We've gone through... Our second drummer is our drummer, Andrew Enberg. And we've gone through a number of bassists. And we were even a drum-guitar duo for a few years. And so that's Weird Harold. That's my band. And they just recently... You guys just recently played. do you have any other acts coming or shows coming up we we had our first show in 13 years a couple months ago and we we put it together because my son is graduating from high school and moving to new york for college and i i wanted him to see me play before we left and that's how i was able to convince the band to get back together after 13 years i said come on man for my kid and so we we We basically put together a three-hour set of 22 originals, and it's all up on YouTube.

21:19 It's a pretty nice five-camera mix of that show. And it's a Weird Herald show. If you see us five times, even if we play the exact same set list, you'll never see the same show twice. And this show is no exception. You know, we'll be playing and I'll forget a part and we'll stop and talk about it and then we'll jump in and, you know, I'll find a chair over here that looks fun to try and jump off. And everyone will say, no, Chris, don't jump off. And, you know, so it's always an adventure in Weird Herald. Yeah, and... Yo, Chris, so you're telling me your whole... When you guys are playing, it's basically schtick?

22:04 Is that what that is? No. I didn't say it's a schtick. No. I just said that's what we are. We think we're the schtick, but we're not the schtick. Did you ever end up playing at the... We both also have another mutual friend. And in addition to Steve White is Anthony Liano. And he would put on these indie euphoria shows where he, it was very kind of like April. It's a lot of indie artists, but he would also put together a lot of these, you know, we weren't the only guys doing comics that were also doing music and he would put music shows on at the end of the show into the night. Did you ever do any world Harold there? I didn't do any night shows, but our, our, our third to last show, which would have been 13 years ago, i think was it the last year he did indie euphoria and i i'm pretty sure that's where you caught us mike i think you came out to that one yeah yeah i think i could yeah there was one where it was in the day or maybe others were in the day but i think we were on the same bill that one too i think i remember seeing you performing there yeah i also think that when i perform i'm really really good but i'm not yes clearly but i do agree you sounded good and i i told you so much but it wasn't just pillow talk oh i i remember enjoying you yeah.

23:27 You enjoy me but it wasn't pillow talk just say it well not mean it that's but but i can relate to you as far as like even though the the most of the stuff i say in my songs back then were nonsense like the energy and the the the craziness that you put in on stage is what keeps the crowd engaged and fun you know especially when you're you know some of these some of these crowds that we played for then were were kind of small there wasn't a packed house as they say in the in the industry right but but but still we had a lot of fun right yeah are you asking me yes we had a lot of fun yeah that was a question yeah it was fun you know i'm curious this this kind of question goes for both you guys and i guess i mean if you can mic too apparently um but do you think the era of live streaming would have benefited you guys back in those days with music well that's a good question i don't know yeah because we i know you guys were obviously you know before that time and i always wonder like would things be different if you had that ability to like okay now i'm not like you know mike said it wasn't a packed house but you could stream it and potentially have.

24:42 200 you know the 2000 people watching right you wouldn't even know that like do you think that would have changed potentially the trajectory of your career potentially. The Weird Herald career is a little tricky because the guys I've been in bands with not enjoyed recording and have said flat out they're not going to tour. And so, you know, in choosing the musicians I've chosen, that means we almost have nothing documented.

25:26 The bulk of our documentation is if a buddy brought a camera to a live show. And so, you know, in theory, the live stuff could could have been streamed. Being at a place live is a different experience than watching it on your phone. And I think Weird Harold in particular loses a lot. In the recordings compared to being present on the scene. And I was just recently talking with some friends about this. We are not accurate technical musicians.

26:12 I try to get musicians in my band who are, but I am not. And we, two of the three of us sing pretty pitchy. And you know when when you're live and the the music is just pound in your chest you know and and and you're there and you you're part of that energy that's a very different experience, than when the energy is only this big coming out through a so-so headphone and not not being able to feel the music the same way you know what i mean so when when people see my recordings that I put on YouTube, they say, oh, this is kind of funny.

26:54 But when they see us live, they say, this is an event. You know what I mean? It's just very different. So I don't know how much it would have helped us. Even if we had some sort of means to be discovered that way, it might not read quite so well. Yeah, that's a really good answer, I think. Mike, do you have a take on that? Yeah, I mean, there's nothing like seeing a band live. I mean, you know, that experience, especially when it's something like, you know, how Chris is, Weird Hell would be, you know, I can think of countless bands in New Orleans that I probably wouldn't listen to that just sitting in my car, you know, like driving through traffic, but watching these guys on stage and jamming and every, you know, the scene in the bar or wherever they're playing.

27:38 Oh yeah it's it's it's unparalleled but also like not not only that but you know back then we had to sell cds or tapes at our table or you know wherever you know there wasn't a spotify that we could send a link to people or post it on a thing like you know we're really dating ourselves here but you know you had to look up where to buy where to get cds made and how much it cost and like Like, do we want it in a jewel case or just a plastic sleeve? Because do we have a budget for a thousand minimum at least a thousand? Yeah. So you have to other people than your friends have to buy it. So that's that's another thing.

28:21 It's so funny. It's so crazy, like how media changes, right? You know, media changes. So I don't know, just in ways that are sometimes don't even make sense in my opinion. But it's so fascinating. And talking about media, you do comics and you just published your book with Fanagraphics. We have talked about it in the past. But if I may, one more time, can you tell our audience where they can get that book, please? I'm just trying to always make sure we hype you up, my man. Thank you. The book is on Amazon. You can order it direct from my publisher's website, fanagraphics.com. Are the the publisher sees the most money that way so that that's probably the best answer for them to hear i i i don't think i have it listed yet on my website but i've got some of my other comics listed on my website chriswizniaarts.com those are probably the best places to find my stuff next time i see you chris i need to get uh the doors the newest doors to look so i can going to have it on my on my beautiful you can't see it but i have a beautiful wood barrel table that has books from all the people that have been on on the show and we don't have yours uncle dad is it a dude is it a double date, mike's jealous i just want to know if i'm in with pillow talk because you know.

29:50 He's like i do that for me are you saying like you want to be a twa for our menage i mean i'm in the burning man stuff gets weird you know whatever, you know you don't plan for it all it just happens just be in the moment as they say be here now. Uh so mike do you have anything else you'd like to ask him before we kick off our big event i i hope i hope this isn't gonna end in a no but are you gonna be at san diego comic-con this year I am. It was coming up in the air. A friend of ours has a kid who's been trying to get tickets for years and has never been able to land a ticket.

30:38 And they asked if I could help out. And as a pro, I am allowed to bring a guest. And so I offered for him to be my guest this year. And the family very kindly offered to get us a beachfront place to stay that week. Week and i i was able to get the the dad and the kid tickets with the help of another friend of mine who's a pro and so i told pantographics i'd like to come down and they are going to be giving me an hour a day at their booth and they are going to get me tickets so i can bring my family down So my wife and my younger kid are going to be down this year, and this is the first time my younger kid's ever been.

31:35 And it's probably been about 13 years since my wife has come out, too. So we're really looking forward to it this summer. Awesome. Well, we'll have to say hi and get you on our show for, what, the eighth time? We had to go for the ESPN 30 for 30. Let's do it. Wonderful. That's dope that you're going to be at the Fantagraphics booth again, because you get to get in touch with the fans. What's better than that, right? That's right. It was a good show for me last year, so I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing a lot of those faces again, catching up. Let me uh let me throw something out there chris if you do a panel and you need a panel host, please let me be the one to do it just throwing that out there if you if you can i'm just saying you know what i mean i just want to throw that out there it's a very kind offer, i think chris has to i think chris has to go to the bathroom right now, you didn't care you didn't care about that at all my kind of furrowed brow that that's what was going on like maybe like.

32:48 Sure if i seemed hesitant this is why uncle dad tell me it's it's very difficult with comic-con to get a panel and last last year fan of graphics submitted some panels on on my behalf and was able to get me on a panel but but they did it by packing it with some amazing comics creators so in other words it wasn't me they got that panel happening i i just as part of the fan Stable kind of snuck in and like I I last year Gary Groth my my publisher and Scott Shaw who is one of the founders of Comic-Con could not get a panel that they pitched so Scott Shaw couldn't get a panel, yeah wow yeah so we're gonna get scott shaw on the show and talk about that yeah, seriously well if you do and you would like me to moderate let me okay okay.

34:08 It's amazing well you know what i'll just throw this out there if you ever do a solo paddle then and you need maybe we could do a local one let's try and get a local one going somewhere uncle dad i would love to i would love to i want to do more paddle hosting what do you think mike i think you're very persistent uncle dad so okay but yeah i think if you keep asking you'll get what you want, four years later we're still doing this right there you go a point exactly yes there we are you you just doubled down on that yeah well chris and mike are you guys ready to do something we've never done before we've never done this and i'm so excited to do this we've we've done a game show before but we've never done we're our basically team team uncle dad mike and team enemy chris dang team team panel team panel yes i like that better the panel team.

35:18 They're are you guys are going to be playing for a listener to win what exactly mike a zombie character by me drawn by me and just to let the audience know why that's such a big deal Still, Chris, you remember my days of hot zombie chicks, right? And one of the ways I would lure people to my table and make extra dough was to draw them as zombie characters. And this started before zombies were everywhere. Like, this was, you know, way before the Walking Dead TV show and all that stuff. So zombies weren't as popular as they became. came and I would have two, three hour waits sometimes to draw people as zombie characters.

36:01 And, and I, and I put it away, but I'm bringing it back just for this contest. Wow. This is going to be the greatest. I tried to say earlier, but you, you totally just bulldozed over me telling about your zombies. And what I was trying to say is I, I drew a zombie pinup for one of your books. And, That's how cool Mike's zombies are. That's right, he did. I actually heard that. That's amazing. Yeah, wow. We collabed. We did collab on a book. Look at that. Very good. Very nice, Chris. I'm glad you remember. I was just thinking that you did that with me. Yes. Wow. Okay, well, Mike's great. We know that.

36:45 But, Mike, we do have to go over the details, and the details are that it is an 8x11. Black and white, standard paper, pen drawing, right? It'll be in pencil. Pencil, okay. It'll be in pencil. In order to claim this prize, I will reach out to you via Instagram if you win, and you need to respond ASAP. If you do not respond, you do not win the prize. The sooner the better. Mike is a busy man, as we all know, and if Mike can't get to it right away, it's going to sit down. It's going to sit on the shelf, and we don't want that. So please, when you get a DM from me, if you win please please please respond asap now who are we playing for let's find out let's give it up for team for the opposing team you are going to be playing mr chris wisnia let me pull up the name here you are playing for his instagram handle is if i can pull it up pawan pawan j.

37:44 Heeta pawan j heeta that's who you're playing for okay me and pawan remember that name like i said I hope we're pronouncing it correctly. Remember that. Apologies, Paul, and if we got your name mispronounced. It could be Puffin. I really mean that. It could be Puffin because, yeah. Okay. I don't want to explore that. We just lost half the listeners. I'm going to edit that out anyway. Don't worry. You are playing for Paul and Jay Heda. And Mike, the home team, you are playing for a much easier name to pronounce. You're playing for Mona Lisa under Biltron. Okay. Let's do this. Competitors.

38:28 The way it's going to work, the one who has the most points at the end of all three rounds is the winner. Everything we're playing is based upon film. I did all the research and all the fun things to make this happen. And the first game that we're going to play... Are you ready, Mike? I'm bringing back the game show voice. Let's do it. yeah that's that all right everybody let's give it up for super fake towns that's right, super fake towns what i'm going to do is ask you a basically i'm going to say the name of a fake town in a very famous movie you need to just name the title of the movie that's it in this particular round the way it's going to work is the opposing team is going to go first if you do not answer it right mike can steal and then he will take that point if mike doesn't get it right then no one gets a point at all same thing vice versa does that make sense.

39:24 So far, so good. Okay. And we're going to alternate turns. So, if you go first, Chris, then he goes to Mike, then back forth, back forth, back forth. Okay, we got 11 questions. Here we go. Are you ready, Chris, for question number one? Chris, are you there? I'm sorry, I blanked out. Did you ask already? I can't... You were so still, I could not tell that it froze on me. Okay. I heard nothing. your first fake town is Amity Island. This is why I knew I didn't want to play this game, because I know I'm not going to know any of these.

40:05 Amity Island you would think is the Amityville Horror, but I'm going to guess Godzilla. Wrong. Alright, Mike, you're up for the steal. I think he's just being silly. Silly. I think he is too, because there's no way you don't know them. Well, that would be Jaws. Digging, digging, digging Jaws. Oh! Alright, Mike, for the one point. I had to feel like Chris knew that, but whatever, he's trying to blow his... He doesn't want his team to win. Are you ready, Mike, for your question? I think he's got something to give.

40:47 I think he looked up Poway on Instagram. He's like, no, I don't like that guy or that person. I think I know what this next question is going to be. We'll see. Okay. In order to get the question right, you need to say the entire full name of the movie. Cloud City. This is for Mike. Star Wars. The Empire Strikes Back. Ding, ding, ding. Mike is at it again. Wrong. It's Star Empire Strikes Back Wars. That's not wrong. It's star the empire strikes back wars are you talking about oh because of the yeah i know why you said that that's very clever so different okay so this fake city is for you my chris are you ready i'm ready emerald city i'm studying mike's face on this one, I'm studying your face on this one I should totally know this one 3 2 1 The Empire Strikes Back Wars My goodness.

41:52 Do you really not know the answer to that one? I know He knows the answer Okay Mike, I'm assuming you do Emerald City? Yes Wizard of Oz? Correct ding ding ding ding I totally knew that one I totally knew all of these so far yeah sorry Paul I just forgot, my second guess is going to be sleepless in Seattle but the pressure's killing me oh man we got a few rounds of this so we got to roll through this come on let's go Mike Haddonfield Illinois. Haddonfield Superman you're up my brother chris i'll give you a hint that you're struggling it is a very very horror film that you don't even have to watch it to know it oh my god it huh is it halloween it is there you go i didn't know that one i almost guessed friday the 13th, there we go all right you're up chris mike is going to be he's going to lose his shit if you you don't know this one hill valley hill valley chris see this is why we have eyes yeah i'm gonna have you try that one more time and i'll give you a hint the hint is there is a character named doc in it pass what you know what we'll never

43:27 know he'll never confess he'll never know So is Doc a human or a pet dog? Okay, the dog's name is Einstein. Okay. So this must be back to the future then. Yes, it is. There we go. I'm trying to get Paul in some points here. Some hope that he's going to win something. Okay. Mike, you're up. Raccoon City. Resident Evil. Whoa, look at that. Zombies. It's not Guardians of the Galaxy? Yes. Part 3. Okay, Chris, I feel like you really know this one. Really, I do.

44:09 Silver Creek, Colorado. Nope, don't know it. Legendary movie about a novelist written by a legendary author. All that's coming to mind is misery. That's correct! I can't tell if you're being serious or not. This is why I would look at him like that at the conventions when we met. You're like, this is how I am. Yes. Did you see in my concert there was a point where we were about to start a song and i couldn't get my guitar working so the drummer kept playing and the bassist came over and he's fiddling with my, you know all my inputs and cables and then he goes did you turn your volume on on your guitar and I turned my volume on and then the guitar worked.

45:05 And everyone at the show was like, is that a shtick? We'll never know. They're going like, this guy teaches guitar lessons at your shop, doesn't he? And he doesn't know how to turn his guitar knob volume on? Yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what to say. They'll never tell. We'll never know. You're up here, sir. Mike, Verona Beach. Verona Beach. Jaws 3. Eh. You have missed. The only movie I know of on a beach is Lost Boys. Eh. The answer is Romeo and Juliet.

45:47 That's not a movie. That's a play. I'll get out of here. If you had told me to find big places and plays, that would be totally different. You'd be winning like crazy now. Chris, you are up. Here we go. Zion. That's one I should know. I think so. Yeah, you know stuff about Zion. Yeah. It's a sci-fi film. Yep. It stars a very famous actor. But it's not Star of the Empire Strikes Back Wars. It's not. I know that. Actually, you made two games, Mike. Laughter.

46:30 I'll give you two more seconds, sir. I'll pass it to Mike. Mike, go ahead. Zion? Yes. Is it The Matrix? It is correct. Good job, sir. I've never seen The Matrix. What? Really? Yeah. Whoa. I've tried starting it a few times, and I've never gotten all the way through it. It's so horrible. It's a horrible film, right, Chris? It's the worst movie ever. Wow, okay. Alright, you are up. Mike, this should be an easy one for you. Woodsboro, California. Woodsboro?

47:10 Woodsboro, California. The Lumberman. You're up, Chris. The only movie I know of in the forest is I Spit on Your Grave. Great movie, great pull, but not that one. I'll give you another hint. He wears a very famous ghost-like mask. So it must be screen. Good job. Wow. It's like you guys study movies. All right. I feel like the score is still zero to whatever Mike got. What's the score? We're not done yet. We got one last question. And I actually think I may have fucked up. This might not be. Yeah, it isn't right. So actually, we are done with this round. Never mind.

47:55 Last question. I messed up. What a host. What a host indeed. Now for round two, we have to come up with names of places for you to guess. We're listening to this like, what is wrong with this game show? Okay. Super Fake Towns. The score goes to Mike. Mike, you have one, two, three, four, five. You have five points. Chris, you have one, two, three, four. You have four points. Booyah, Chris. Booyah. You have four points. Look out. It's close, Mike. If I keep getting these hints, pretty much. That's that gangster. I got to make an interesting show, you know?

48:39 Okay, everybody. Now it's time for everybody's favorite category about dialogue. Let's play Super Quotes with Mike and Chris Wisnia. What I'm going to do is say a very, very famous quote from cinema. And all you have to do is name the movie. That's it. I hope you don't name that quote from Die Hard that Mike already said. I should get a point just for dropping that before this game even started. No, okay. Right, here we go, Chris. This one you should get. There's no reason why you shouldn't get this one. None. It's alive. How could you do that to the Statue of Liberty, you damn dirty apes? Ooh, that's a good one.

49:24 It's alive. It's alive. I know you know this one you're literally wearing it on your shirt, is it from 1931 sure I don't know if that's the year but yes I think so it must be Frankenstein there you go. Alright Mike you are up Mike if you don't get this one everybody is going to be so mad at you everybody may the force be with you, Star Trek come on shame on you for even putting that in this game I thought I'm doing some easy ones in there dude, because okay Chris when I've done these games in the past Mike complains that I make it too hard well you don't have to make it that easy the empire strikes back wars, this time it is there you go Mike you got that point well that was Chris I'll give you that one Mike Mike, I'll give that one to you.

50:28 Thank you. Man, Paul is going to be like, dude, my guy just keeps giving my points away. Remember, you're playing for actual listeners. This is the worst game show I've ever been on. All right, Chris, you're up. This is a tough one, Chris. Carpe diem. Seize the day, boys. Make your lives extraordinary. I know this one. Okay. Is the Dead Poets Society. Yes. See? You had me doubting. You gave me a look and I went, it's not that. I knew Mike wouldn't know that one. I didn't think so, at least. Did you know that one, Mike? I would know, may the force be with you. Thank you, Uncle Dad.

51:10 I know I'm a complete idiot, and I play one on the show, and you're making it even more prevalent. First of all, I didn't really connect it like that, so relax. All right, next question. Here we go. Here we go. Are you ready, Chris? The quote is, Glass, who gives a shit about glass? Glass, who gives a shit about glass? Mike, do you know that one? I i have two in mind but it's it's you have a guess no okay i don't think this is tough i don't think bruce willis said that in die hard even with all that glass, you son of a bitch that's right good job people are listening poker face on that one huh exactly yes if only the listeners could see the whole episode they They would know my poker face.

52:04 You know what, Chris? You're killing us on so far. Good job. All right, Mike, you're up. Here we go. You can't handle the truth. A few good men, just like the people on this podcast. A few good men. By the way, in my opinion, it's one of my favorite buildings of all time. So fucking good. Oh, my God. Sorry. Oh, good. Oh, good. Okay. Here we go. Chris, you're up. keep your friends close but your enemies closer, this is like a famous saying so it could have been in a lot of movies is it a movie with some enemies in it give me a hint does this movie have some enemies in it team enemy wants to know.

52:55 I'll give you a secondary hint just because I like it Chris the quote the secondary quote pity me the secondary quote is i knew it was you fredo, so was that godfather 2 it was correct good job thank you for the secondary hint yes you're welcome you're welcome i'm trying to make it interesting uh mike we're doing a great job, alright here we go Mike here we go I'll have what she's having. Great movie great movie too by the way, What is that from? You technically said it earlier by accident.

53:43 The Lumberman? No, dude. You said it earlier when I brought up Emerald City. Hold on, hold on. You did say that earlier, so I think you need to give it to... I did. Oh, you mean Sleepless in Seattle? No. No! I got the wrong one. Whoops. I think I got this question wrong. You did. You have the chance to steal, When Barry met Sally That is correct I don't know why I thought you said that I never said that, In the movie Mike If this refreshes your memory They were eating food At a diner And then the woman Sitting next to them said What's she having, It's so funny It's so good I love that. I can't wait to watch it again tonight.

54:43 Alright, here we go. So here's some trivia. Okay. Maybe I miscounted, but that's two Rob Reiner movies we've quoted so far, right? I think you're right, yeah. Wow. Not intentional, by the way. Absolutely not. Here we go chris it was beauty wait it was beauty that killed the beast classic movie, 1930s it's a tough one that's a tough one i think that's a good one though very good movie you're gonna hear the name and be like oh yeah i know it yeah, This is for Pawan. You want to win for him, dude? I'm not placing it.

55:33 Okay. No guess for you, sir. Citizen Kane. The King Kong. It is correct. Oh, it's King Kong. King Kong. Mike, you do keep getting the easy ones, I feel. Here we go. You know what? I just threw that out there. Oh, not that one. This one, that's your question. Here's Johnny. You know, the Jack Nicholson question. I guess The Shining How many Jack Nicholson movies have we done so far? Just two, right? Yeah To The Shining That's all I can remember He's also in The Lumberman though It's not a real movie.

56:19 Alright, next Alright, here we go, here we go, Chris If you build it He will come Field of Dreams. Hell yeah, good job. Good job. I'm proud of you on that one. Here we go. So proud of you. Mike, there's no crying in baseball. Ooh, starring Laurie Petty, a league of their own. Yeah! Alright! Laurie Petty's my homegirl. Chris, if you didn't know, Laurie Petty's my homegirl. Okay in the last couple of minutes too right gentlemen we are at chris one two three four five six six points for chris, This round? Yeah, this round. Mike, you got one, two, three, four, five.

57:16 Five points. Bringing our tools to a tie. 10-10. Whoa. That means round three, this is where it's going to get crazy, y'all. Oh, God. Seriously, you got to use your unilateral brain on this one. Here we go. So we're playing a legendary game that was originally from the 1970s and 1980s, hosted by somebody I cannot remember. It was called Super Password. We're playing Super Movie Password. That's right. You're going to have the name, the one word title of a movie. So an example would be Heat, right? Heat's a one word title movie, Heat.

57:59 And I will give you a clue, a one word clue for you to figure out what that may be. Now, the way it's going to work is this way. It's going to go with home team first. Mike, I will give you a clue. You have to guess just whatever you think. That point value is 10, and it goes to lowers every time we bounce it back and forth. Does that make sense? I'm with it. You with it, Chris? I got it. All right, here we go. Mike, you go first. Use your brain on this one. Everybody. This one, not the other ones. Do we get one word clue each time that the movie is not guessed?

58:41 And that's why you get less points? Yep. Wait, the isn't part of the movie. There's no the. It's just a one word. Just a one word movie. Again, he's the best example I can give. Okay, great. Here we go. Mike, for ten points. Blue. Red. Okay. Okay, not a bad guess, Ron, but not a bad guess. For nine points, Chris. Forest. Eight. That'd be funny, huh? Wait, red too. For eight points. Unitanium. Wait, what? Unitanium.

59:26 Whatever that is. Blue Forest Entertainment. Five. Four. Three. Two. Jaws. For seven points. Navi. This is for you, Chris. Navi and Saldar. He's going to have the same response. Okay. This is very hard. For six points. Mike. Yeah. Tribes. Tribes. Blue. Forest. Editanium. Navi. Don't forget that. People are listening to this right now and they're going to be losing their shit that you don't know this.

1:00:13 I know exactly what movie it is and I don't know the name of it. You get one guess. One, two, three, go. Okay, Chris, go. I'm going to ask a question so that Mike can get it. Is this that James Cameron movie with the blue skin people? It is, correct? See, and I don't even know the name of it. You know what? Normally, so we play games our way on this show. I'm just going to give it to you, Chris. So, Chris, you're going to get, what is that? That's what I say, eight points? Oh, seven points. Six. I think we're down to six or five. Six.

1:00:54 I forgot about that movie. all right you're up for this time chris first for 10 points what's the name of it avatar, oh yeah i didn't say that uh avatar that was right yeah all right here we go number two boat. Jaws. Nine points, Mike. Titanic. There it is. And a quick trivia bit. How many James Cameron movies have we done so far? I know it's so funny. Always very popular. Here we go. Mike with nine points. Good job. All right, who are you up first, Mike? Mercenary.

1:01:38 Mercenary. Red. Nine points, Chris. Disfigured. Rambo. That's not a bad guess. Eight points, Mike. Sarcastic. Come on, guys. Both of you two should know this. Five. Predator. Eh. For six points, Chris. Marvel. Fury. For five points, Mike. Okay, Deadpool. I didn't mean to say the last hit, but yeah, I got it.

1:02:21 Okay, Deadpool. Yeah. That's a better guess than mine. It's almost over, don't worry. Mike, you got five points. This one's going to be tough. Mike, Chris. Chris, first word is dystopian. Okay, I'm back. I'm here. I'm here. I will help you a little bit on this one. I'll give you a little hint, though, before you guess, Chris. Oh, I already guessed. Good thing it froze. Okay. All right. Nine points, Mike. Dream-like. Wait, my thing froze. I didn't get the first clue. The first clue was dystopia? Dream-like. Dream-like.

1:03:09 This is an 80s movie. 80s? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 8 points. Or no. Yeah, 8 points. Chris De Niro. As in the last name, De Niro. Brazil. Boom! There it is. Hell yes. Wow. Chris, that's the most impressive one so far. I've never even heard of that movie. Oh, it's a great movie, right? It's a Terry Gilliam film. Yes. Yes, yes. Oh, dude, that's why he's the greatest. Because I knew deep cuts like that he would get.

1:03:51 Well, that's why you put it in there. Of course. You put Star Wars for me. All right, you were up, Mike. Here we go. No, he put Star Empire Strikes Back Wars. Wars. Right, that's right. That's right. Thank you, Chris, for correcting me. Gambling. Casino. Boom, there it is. Ten points for Mike. Easy. How many De Niro films have we done now? There you go. I was waiting for that. I was waiting. I couldn't say it, but Chris had to say it. That's so funny. All right, here we go. Here we go. Chris. Boxing. Five. Four. Rocking. Three. Boom, there it is. Ten points for Chris.

1:04:38 I was going for the De Niro raging bull but that's two words I thought you were going to say that too I was dying for three De Niro films, here we go Mike vigilante that is correct Mike with a 10 again, he's doing that it should have been Punisher it could have been but that's a duh right, no they're calling Punisher just say Punisher sure okay all right um all right here we go here we go you're up chris 10 points notes barricade movie one of the greatest movies ever.

1:05:18 Is it the That's Not My Tempo movie? I don't know what that even is, though. Yeah, it's that one. All right. I know that one. Mike, you're up. Nine points. Forgetful. Memento. There it is for Mike. Oh. I thought for sure you would have gotten it, Chris. See, I'm a musician. I don't think of that kind of notes. Yeah, but you love film noir. It's a great movie. Man, here we go. Here we go. Here we go, Chris. No, no, no. Mike. Mike gets the first heart. Mike.

1:05:59 Deadly. That's a tough one. That's a tough hint, but deadly. That gave me so many things. Jeez, what's deadly? I don't know. That's ridiculous. How dare you? Okay. Chris. Scarface. I just went a little bit wrong. Um, Chris, here we go. For nine points. Orca. Come on. I know you got this one, Chris. I'll give you a hint, Chris. You mentioned it multiple times earlier today. I was thinking it couldn't be Jaws, could it? It sure is. Orca? Yeah, that's the name of the boat.

1:06:42 Remember that movie, Orca, where it was the deadly killer Orca? Yeah, I almost guessed Orca. I don't think the clue can be the title on this show it probably could be yeah you never know alright here we go you are up Chris right yeah Chris yeah Chris Morocco, Casablanca boom Chris for the 10 pretty good Chris Mike everything in my Mike Bean, I need you to get this right. Okay. I'll do my best. Mike, look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

1:07:25 I'm sending it to you. I'm sending it to you right now. I'm sending it to you. I already know it. There we go. Oh, I know this one. Of course you do. Here we go. One word. Aerosmith. There it is, big boy. I'm going to go listen to that song and cry. Let's sing it! Let's sing it right now for our big finale! Well, you're the band guy. Go ahead, Chris. Give me a second, folks. I just need to do your scores here for this. We got a lot of them here. Uh, Chris, we got six. We got eight. We got ten.

1:08:07 We got... ten again. And ten again- or nine again, sorry. That's forty-three. With your 10 you already have, that puts you at a total of 53. So, Mike, you need to get 54 points to win for your contestant. Do you remember who that is? Or you need to get 53 for sudden death. Yeah, let's keep it going. Let's keep this show longer than it needs to be. Something from Mona Lisa, right? Oh, that's a song, too. All right, here we go. Okay. Here we go. Here we go.

1:08:47 Mike, you got nine. You got five. You got ten. You got ten. You got nine. Nine. And you got ten. Putting you at 53 base. And with your other ten, putting you at 63. A slaughter. Ten point win. A slight margin. origin let's give it up for team uncle dad 63 points to 53 the team enemy team paddle team i just want to apologize to my my instagram fella whose name i i don't want to pronounce because i'm concerned we don't know the proper pronunciation but i i gotta tell you uncle dad Dad, you really pulled the bait and switch on me.

1:09:42 You said, okay, we're finally going to have you on the show. And I said, okay, great. And you said, oh, and by the way, I'm going to do a game. And I went, you're kidding me. And you said, yeah, but it's okay. We'll make it about film noir. And I'm going, this sounds awful. I hate games, but at least it's film noir. So he says, okay, we're all set. I set it up with Mike. So I get the invite and it says, we're doing a game and it's not film noir. I'm thinking he double bait and switched me. And I got to say for the record, I hate games because I know that I'll be this bad at them. I get so tense that I just forget everything I know. And I make a fool of myself.

1:10:28 So thanks for making a fool of me. And now you know, And now you know, Uncle Dad, why he will not let you moderate his panel anywhere, ever. You now know. When I was rolling my eyes when you asked about the panels, what I'm thinking is, he's making me play a game. There's no way he's moderating my panel. Chris, I didn't know you were so anti-game. I'm not inviting you to game night. It's because I hate myself. It's because I hate the way I see myself acting when I try to do these games. It's not you, it's me, guys.

1:11:10 Yeah, there it is. Well, at least you're entertaining. You have that. It all seems as though, let's please give our audience a... I'm going to start a podcast with Chris. Sorry go ahead let's give it up for Paul and I'm pretty sure it's pronounced Puffin uh Jehita, Puffin Jehita uh great job you didn't win but I'm gonna send you some stickers anyways uh we got some great stickers that Mike designed and I'll send those your way uh and for our winner Mona Lisa underscore Beltran Mike you get to do the honors I will get everything to you do you want her to email your Uncle Dad email, or just email me?

1:11:55 Yeah, she can email my Uncle Dad email. That's fine. All right. I will send her your Uncle Dad email, and she will email you with what she wants. Is there any restriction at all that she needs to be aware of now? It's just one person. Easy. Just one person. I like it. All right. You know what, Chris? I got to tell you, you're right. I still want to do that game with you that I actually didn't have intention to do. Since you know how much I love games, let's have you back on and what you can do is say we're not going to do a game and they'll say okay let's do it on this day and you say okay and by the way I've got this idea for a game and whatever game you want it to be, don't tell me it's going to be that game until like 10 minutes before it'll be great, okay you're right give it to him.

1:12:48 But Chris before we wrap up one last time, can you tell our audience where they can connect with you and get your beautiful products? I am at Chris Wisnia Arts at all your favorite social media, including my YouTube channel and my website. Easy peasy. Mike, any last words before we wrap up? Well, just once again, you asked in front of the game, and my point is proven. You are so persistent, Uncle Dad. You are the most persistent host I've ever been associated with so and you love it man you love it very good i just want to say i i know i'm busting your balls but i always have a great time with you uncle dad and it's always so great to see you mike and i would come back even for a game for you guys i love it i love it well we have more time no all right everybody now we're not what's the next game all right everybody we're not uncles we're not dads we're just someone you can talk to and we'll see.

1:13:53 Music.