The GamePapas Episode 11: Game Informer's Top 200 games of All-Time ( Part 1)

0:00 Music. Gamers and welcome to another episode of the game papas i'm uncle dad the host of the game papas along with me who hosts with me is the one and only the massive gamer himself the gaming, aficionado the man the myth legend retro gaming nomad what's up man hey welcome welcome americans europeans australians and everybody else around the world i love it man so you know we just did a very long episode for those who didn't listen go give it a listen or if you did listen you didn't finish it go finish it because we're doing a part two of a trilogy and that is game informer magazine's top 100 200 and 300 games of all time now mr nomad let's talk about your reaction overall from the first 100 oh you know my reaction man it's it's you know just growing up having.

1:15 Multi-consoles and the greatness well the great games that are on each of those consoles and i mean i was i was lucky enough to have them now i wasn't privileged where my parents bought me all that stuff i worked for all my stuff and that's probably why i kept a lot of my stuff to this day, you know the whole blood sweat and tears thing so i i bought these consoles myself i bought these games myself so but i i sought out and i made sure you know that i had a little bit of everything thing i think the majority of the people doing this list had one maybe two consoles and they both started with n but don't you think so as a gaming journalist you can't be biased like that like a journalist in general i would think so but i don't know i i think just the majority of them like i said had a couple consoles they might have played you know turbo graphics here and there at at a friend's house or a Neo Geo or, you know, an Amiga Commodore 64 somewhere else.

2:13 But I mean, it's obvious that they played primarily an NES, then went to Super Geo and then went to PlayStation. I mean, it's obvious, dude, because there's so many great games on these other systems. I mean, phenomenal games that didn't scratch the surface. And then some that some that you named and we both got pissed off. Like, are you kidding me? That game's on the top 100. I wouldn't put that in the top 500. For those who don't know what we're talking about, if you listen to the episode, we talked about Apex Scape made it to top one, like was number 100. And to me, that is just the biggest, craziest top 100 game of all time.

2:55 That's a slap in the face to all true gamers, man. That one. But to be fair, there's definitely probably somebody out there who probably thinks that there's, you know, not thinks, but feels that that's their, you know, top 100 game of all time, if not number one game of all time. True. I have to agree with that because there's a lot of these quirky games that I really like. And the people are like, they wouldn't give it the time of day. I mean, one of them is, I think we talked about before, a game that I absolutely loved. And it was super simple to play. But I just had a blast playing it, man. It was just funny to me. And I enjoyed it. Was A Dog's Life on the PS2. Yeah, that's a good one. I absolutely love that game, man. And I tell other people, like, oh, this is kind of stupid. Or even like Mr. Mosquito.

3:38 It's called in japan i love those quirky games man but you know and i put those in my in my top you know you know 300 list or whatever they probably wouldn't see the light of day on others so to each their own i guess but i mean i'm i'm just we're just talking about what we agree on and what we don't agree on and i think we both don't agree on that one being a top 100 game for sure i think that's the biggest almost offense but whatever you know the people like what they like right but uh for this episode we're doing the top 200 now but when we did the top 100 that issue i think that issue came out in 2007 or something i thought so this one came out in 2009 so we're about two two two years after i had to do the math right now two years after 2007 so we are going no i'm sorry let me rephrase that no no that's not true it was 2008 i'm sorry 2009 yeah hold on you know what i'm gonna have to edit this because i don't remember now give me one second here give me one second and so anyways now that i got that out of the way.

4:43 November of 2009 they did the top 200 games of all time now here is the interesting thing, you were talking about nintendo and favoritism right and i'm actually going to put each of these covers on our promo when we release this episode but for the 200 issue they did the top 200 and And they did, like, special commemorative covers. Now, these covers include the following games. The 8-bit version of Link from Legend of Zelda. Yep. The 8-bit version from Super Mario. Mm-hmm. I think, I guess, the Game Boy Color-looking version of Tetris. The image of, I guess he had no name, but the main character from Grand Theft Auto 3. Mm-hmm.

5:28 What is his name from Half-Life 2, or Half-Life, the main guy? Not Morgan Freeman. I know it's not right. But it's Morgan, though, right? It's Morgan something, right? Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah, well, that main character from Half-Life, he was on the cover. One of the demons from Doom, but the pixelated version, so like the old school Doom. Yeah, yeah. And then we have Samus Aran from the original Metroid. And then you have all the cast, it looks like, from Final Fantasy 2 or 3. I can't i can't make that up but yes so what have you noticed with all the games that i told you about they're all on nintendo except for gta and half-life and half-life yeah yeah what do you think what was your thoughts on half-life half-life 2 um arguably one of the greatest games that would make my top 20 no problem really yeah i think half-life in my opinion it's like the closest thing to an action it was battle shock before battle shock i always felt a little slightly overrated.

6:29 Really? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about that eventually. Cause that's going to be in this list. So, all right, sir, everybody listening, grab a beer, grab a drink and get ready. As we dive in to the top 200. Now we might not do a deep dive on every game, but I will mention every game this time. Last, in last episode, we didn't mention every game this time. We will, but we're going to start, sir, at 200, number 200. And if you have something to say, let's talk about it. If you don't, we can pass number 200. Beyond Good and Evil. Ooh, they're about doing a remake. Doing a remake of Beyond Good and Evil. But I'll tell you this, man. Already, I don't agree with this. I think that needs to be in the top 100. I would probably put it in the top 100 myself. Yeah, exactly. Definitely top 150.

7:14 Yeah. That game was so ahead of its time. I mean, do you remember a lot about that game? Yeah, man. That game was just flat out fun. And the dialogue with the characters, you had the darkness, but you also had a lot of really good color, really good color palettes on there. God, if I remember correctly, I think it was only rated teen or something like that. So anybody can play it. It reminded me a lot how much I enjoyed, like, Psychonauts, dude. It was in there just with that comedy, with the action, the adventure, the shooting. Yeah, there was just a bunch of different elements to that game. It was such a good game. Yeah, and people tend to forget, too, that was an Ubisoft classic before what they were, right? Before they became an Assassin's Creed machine.

7:59 Yeah, pumping out every year. But number 199, I think you're really going to dig. And you might even be offended by this one. Number 199 is Tactics Ogre. Ooh. So me personally, Tactics Ogre, I would put in my top 100. Tactics Ogre is one of the best strategy games I played, and I used to play a lot back in the day. You know, starting, of course, with Military Madness on the Turbo, TurboGrafx. Then I went on to Shining Force on the Sega Master System and Game Gear. Shining Force 2, and of course, the incredible Shining Force 3. Too bad they didn't release, because Shining Force 3 was break down to three episodes. They only released episode one in America, but you can you can go out and get episodes two and three right now kind of repros and they're done very well and they're translated for you for the most part. Pretty good.

8:45 So I recommend that. But Tactics Ogre. Yeah, man. Phenomenal game. Do you remember the strategy? The strategy on that game was just just next level. And God, the battles would take forever. You had to put aside at least an hour for one battle. Oh, for sure. Yeah, that was one of those games that took a long time to play, but it was so good. Yeah. So, so good. Because that was the foundation before Final Fantasy Tactics, correct? I believe so. I believe that came out before Final Fantasy Tactics. And Final Fantasy Tactics borrowed a lot from that and the Shining Force series for the most part. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it came out before that. And no knock on Final Fantasy Tactics.

9:27 That was phenomenal, too. But Tactics Ogre, man, that game was just kind of came out of nowhere. Nobody really knew kind of what it was. And then, of course, you had the Ogre Battle series, Ogre Battle 64 and all that. But Tactics Ogre, man, one of my faves. And that game also had some of the coolest art cover, box art, too, I think. Oh, yes. Yeah. Dude, even the box alone, like if you were to sell just the box, could still sell for like not like tons of money but a good pretty penny for an empty box yeah i found a copy disc only tactics ogre ps1 at a garage sale five bucks wow yeah and i looked at the disc and i had some surface scratches nothing too bad but i was like dude five bucks hell yeah and i brought it i brought it i brought it home i put it on my game chair and i didn't realize it i sat down to play i don't know what i was playing maybe i think diablo or something like that and i freaking sat on the disc and i cracked it oh man i was gonna say i actually have a box of tactics over that i could give you for that at my parents house well yeah i mean you can still give it to me i'll put the cracked disc in there there you go i still have my original copy of it but to get that game for five bucks man i was like i was stoked and yeah i guess it wasn't meant to be 198 is the legendary splinter cell pandora tomorrow oh yeah great game man i'm a huge splinter cell fan especially of the original trilogy and tomorrow was yeah they took all the complaints that i had about the first one and don't get me wrong i love

10:59 the first one but there was like you know just stuff that oh they could have did this better and they fixed them and i know tomorrow and then perfected them in chaos theory i thought yeah great game. They need to bring Fisher back to like legit bring him back well he doesn't want to do it anymore I thought what's his face Ironside Rick well yeah the boys I'm talking about the game. Oh yeah aren't they doing a remake of the original one though. That's what i heard and i hope it's not true because i'm tired of i'm tired of the money grabs on stuff like that man it's like oh we're gonna do it or we're gonna do it in the in the same spirit as the first one because they did that with assassin's creed mirage and i'm sorry man mirage it was boring dude they took such a step back in the series man i i played it through i finished it but it's like okay i see what you were trying to do but honestly man i'd probably play the original one more than i would play mirage it looked beautiful but it's like you got the best you got the best weapons right from the get-go especially if you got the the pre-order edition you you never needed any other weapons and it was just like boring i was like what you know just i'm just pickpocketing people this whole time to get more stuff and doing a bunch of fetch quests and it had just got boring dude so i hope they don't do it that way i love love the first one don't get me wrong but.

12:17 People want something that they're familiar with but new don't remake the old stuff man it's just tired now well if you're gonna do it you gotta do it like almost like how God of War did it right where it was like a remake reboot kind of thing yeah and and I'm, I'm partial on that one because I really liked the, you know, the overhead kind of view of the of the original God of Wars. And you're seeing the whole map and all the enemies coming at you. Don't get me wrong. The one that they eventually released on PS4, the remakes or whatever, they were good. I still prefer the old ones with the battle and all that stuff. And I thought the I thought the PSP version didn't get enough love. I thought those are fantastic, too. Yeah, those are. Yeah.

13:00 But they did God of War right. They said, hey, we're going to we're going to take this game. Were to make it kind of tweak it a little bit and yeah i'm all for it so just please don't remake it exactly how the original was because a lot of people don't remember probably due to the very first spinner cell it was hard and it was slow very slow very very slow that was like i remember that was a game that i demoed at a store maybe we used to do demos at stores and i was like oh wow this is a slow game but then when i when i rented it and played it at home i was like oh okay this This is way more fun than it's not a game you demo, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they, and they tweaked it too. They tweaked it a little bit, but yeah, the way you, you had to hide the bodies, man.

13:44 You had to hide everything. You had anything out in the open, even though you didn't see somebody come by, the alarm would go off and you're screwed after that. Once the alarm goes off, you're done. Yeah, absolutely. So these next, next two, we can kind of go through them. I think really fast. Last 197 is NHL 09. What's there to say about that? Let's move on. But also, why is it in the top 200, right? But that's, whatever. That's a filler game if you ask me. I don't know if you agree with that. Well, I can't say too much about NHL 09 because I don't think I have actually played that one. So I'm going to take that word for it. I played a lot of NHL games. My favorite being probably 93.

14:25 I hated 97. 97 was booty. And I think I never played 09. I think I played up to I think I played up to. Oh oh five i think it was and like after after oh five my sports games kind of died off honestly so i was i had this hate relationship with ea because i was pissed off that they bought the rights to the nfl and visual concepts couldn't make any more nfl 2k games anymore or and that really ticked me off so you can save that you get to nfl 2k then you can get into that conversation decision yeah well pk not not being in the top 100 is ridiculous well i can i already see it coming so 196 is the original call of duty what's there not to say about call of duty creating one of the most successful franchises of all time to this day you know and now microsoft owns it and now we're going to get it free day one with all the call duties going forward if you have game pass of course i think there's a lot to say about call of duty but i know it's going to show up more than one time, so let's just wait until we get to the most important Call of Duty that you think is for your Call of Duty, if you will. Yeah, okay.

15:38 195 is the PC classic and RPG classic, Ultima. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Ultima is a game you cannot... I don't think you can talk about RPGs and not talk about Ultima, in my opinion. No, that has a stamp on the RPG gaming community forever. Ultima forever, dude. Of course, It was way better on PC than any version that they made on console, just because of the whole keyboard aspect to it, the quick keys that you can use and all that stuff. But that was one of the dungeon crawlers, if you will, RPGs, that really, in my opinion, captured how you would play kind of a D&D board game.

16:21 You know, Ultima, it was just, it was fantastic. The story, the characters, the gameplay, the interaction with them. Yeah, it was a fantastic game, man. Yeah and it's also people for those who don't know who developed that game he's a legend in the business Richard Garrett or Garriott I think it is or he used to go by Lord British yeah I don't know do you remember that no man did he lose his lordship. No that was he didn't he wasn't actually a lord he just called himself that like dr gray yeah right but you know for those who don't know is that richard garriott i think it's garriott or garrett was actually the son of a nasa astronaut owen garrett oh that kind of makes a lot of sense because later on i remember not to go too far ahead in this but he did end up making a there was me he was making this game that was supposed to be because ultimately was his pride and joy right he kept doing that for a long time and they made like four i think i think maybe even five and then at some point he wanted to work with nc soft and remember that during the mmo hype he was creating this new mmo that everybody was so it was supposed to be the wow killer and it was called tabula rasa do you remember that yeah yes yeah oh man that's a that's a grab that's a yeah yeah i do remember that yeah and i remember i don't think i was working at the store yet at that time but i do remember buying the special edition of that game there because it got like nobody was buying it so it became like two dollars or like 4.99,

17:58 and i play the game and guess what it sucks. That's what happens with some developers man they get you know they're they're they perfect their craft in a certain area build on something that they built already and it works it works it works and then they might get away from it think of a new idea and it doesn't work it happens all the time i mean we we saw that with with like yuji naka yeah it was with sonic and before that he did black belt which was fantastic on the sega master system it was like sega's answer to kung fu on nes i personally thought it was better but it was it was it was black belt is essentially fist in the north star in america but sega didn't have the rights to fist in the north star nintendo did so they had to change the name to black belt and change the characters and all this other stuff so yuji naka then uh went on to help create sonic the hedgehog from sonic the hedgehog they did had a sonic team he helped with fanny star online and then of course burning burning rangers and then, his latest one was an absolute flop the ballon wonderland oh yeah that's right i was like where are you going with this okay yeah yeah well yeah no because it shows like oh you're on top of your game all the stuff everything you touch is gold and all of a sudden you know it's like ballon wonderland and i and i picked it up just because i'm gonna i'm gonna knock a fan even though he He was in jail at the time, I think, because of insider training or insider trading or some shit he was doing.

19:24 And I played it and it wasn't as horrible as people were saying, but I could see why people hated it. Cause it was just kind of boring. And it was like, he tried to, he tried to recapture like nights into dreams. It didn't work. So it was like a mixture of nights and Sonic and it just didn't work. And then he should have created something different, but that happens with a lot of developers, man. They, they used to one thing and they, and then they make caca and they're gone. Yep. And then talking about that, But speaking of cock of things, then he made an MMO that used NFTs. So you can imagine how that went. Oh, God. Yeah. Anyways, moving on.

20:06 You know, we're already 20 minutes in. We haven't done 10 games yet. That's what I'm saying, man. We've got to blow through these. Let's go. Let's blow through these. Well, the next one, I feel like there's so much that's been said about this game that we don't need to say anything about it. And that is 194 Marvel vs. Capcom 2. Oh, God. How was that? I'm not even the biggest MVC2 fan. I'm not. And I know it's going to enrage a lot of people out there because I am a big fighting fan. And I've always thought Capcom versus SNK 2 was a better game. It's more skillful. But I understand it's a pill. I know a ton of people that like it. And I don't know of anybody who doesn't really play that game. Anytime people come over, I always get asked to put in MVC2.

20:50 At Poplar Dreamcast, and it's on all night. How is that not in the top 100? That's crazy. I agree with that, too. Also, I want to point out that the system that they... Because everything is based on system, too. I just haven't been saying that. 194 Marvel vs. Capcom is actually the Dreamcast version, too. They didn't put the other versions on there, so that's kind of cool, right? Well, they had to. Because, I mean, Marvel vs. Capcom, too, plays the Battle Carrier. Anybody who says it plays the best, especially at this time when this magazine came out, plays the best on the dreamcast the dreamcast it used the naomi board in the arcade which is essentially a dreamcast with more ram so it was like pretty much arcade perfect so and anybody who like played the ps2 version later they could they could see some of the frames some of the timing was off and it wasn't till you know kind of recently with the with the with the newer systems that they were able to kind of perfect that stuff but i i would still prefer it on the dreamcast to this day.

21:44 And they have the Marvelous Capcom Collection coming out, which is not going to be released, believe it or not, on the PS5 because apparently they had to make a whole new engine to play it on the PS5 and they're not going to do it. So it's going to be released on PS4. Now, whether it's backwards compatible or not, we don't know 100% yet. But yeah, look out for that collection, man. It's going to make a lot of people happy. Well, I want to point out something about that collection. I'm glad you brought it up real fast. All those games on there are great, sure. I mean, they're great, whatever. But there's one specific game that I used to own the arcade for. And I think nobody talks about this fucking game. And it's one of the funnest beat-em-ups, side-scroller beat-em-up to come up. It's The Punisher.

22:24 Yes! Yeah. And the fact that The Punisher is included on there, I think that makes it worth buying, 100%. You know what i i believe i bought that unit off of you you sold it you did yeah exactly the arcade went up and i forgot how much i liked the punisher man i started playing that game and i'm like dude why why is this not talked about this game is phenomenal yeah it's so good very much captures like the the over the top 80s you know what the punisher was at the time right. Now if you don't know this Punisher is being removed from the Marvel world nowadays because he's too offensive so there you go kind of like Chuck E.

23:06 Cheese dude Five Nights at Freddy's comes out and now they take all the animatronics out of Chuck E. Cheese's what does America come to man alright alright everybody calm down, 193 I have nothing to say about this we can move past this one pretty quickly jack three next 192 in my opinion should be much higher eternal darkness sanity's workroom oh god yes dude i would personally probably put that it was a silicon knights i believe did i develop that one uh i would put that one probably in my top 100 and the main reason why is because that was was the first game that i played where it literally tricked me because they had like this one part if nobody's played it they have this one part where i mean this is the old school crt tvs right you had to plug in the white yellow and all that or s video if you're if you're lucky and there's this one part where the screen goes snowy and in the upper right corner it says like video yeah and.

24:12 I'm seriously like dude what happened to my gamecube and i'm like i'm like tapping the screen like whatever and it was part of the game and it was tricking me tricking my mind into thinking that my gamecube went out and i literally like unplugged these plugs and plugged them back in and then i realized after a while crap dude this is part of the game and you got me you got me silicon knights and there's another part where your your insanity starts going higher the meter or whatever and then your controls start mixing up they start going reverse so you're You're pushing up and your character's going down. You go left, it goes right. It was stuff like that, just originality like that, that I love in games. And they took a chance with that, man. So yeah, Sanity's Requiem, for sure, in my top 100.

24:57 Definitely top 125 for it to be that low. And again, getting beat out by Ape Escape. I was just gonna say that. That's gonna be the default right there. Where is it compared to Ape Escape? Exactly. Exactly. Alright. You know what? We did a whole episode on this next game, so we don't have to talk about it. And that is Metal Gear Solid 3. That's $191. Oh yeah. Check our episode on that one. Fantastic game. Are you gonna get the remakes? dude i want to get the special edition if you can help me with that i could probably help you i could find you the what is it called the uh i almost said sanitarium what is it called the terrarium that's what i wanted sanitarium i think this can tennessee's working on yeah i i could probably i could probably find you one on that it's gonna cost you okay well just pay i'll pay face value you um plus then um anyways moving on yes but this is not an episode everybody because it is a great episode and we do a deep dive in that that was like two episodes ago 190 190 and i actually have something to say about this game really fast and that is the chronicles of riddick escape from bunch of a one of the best movie game ever ever yeah yes i know i'm cool that I don't know if it deserves to be top 100 personally, but it's fucking good. It's definitely better than Apex Scape, but whatever.

26:27 Yeah, man. I read something about Chronicles of Riddick 2, the movie. It was, basically the Alien 3 story, and then they changed it to Chronicles of Riddick. Something like Like, it's related to Alien and Alien 3 story somehow. I forgot where I read that, but you guys can look that one up on your own. You'll see what I'm talking about, the connection to that one. Yeah, I just wanted to point out, too, that this game was also developed very much heavily with Vin Diesel involved. And Vin Diesel, at the time, his production company actually made that game, was one of the developers on that game.

27:11 And correct me if I'm wrong, there was a... Like i don't want to say i guess it was a special edition right that came with a, with two two games right it was the original xbox version and then the second like a like a like an expansion pack right i believe you're right yeah i'm not 100 on that but i think i do remember that yeah my thing is that game was the same thing just obviously looked way better and it had better loading times better everything right and and that expansion make was pretty solid too i don't know why they didn't put that one on there not not the and why the original you know what i mean it's like when it's like when people put metagross solid one on there yeah i get it it's so good but twin snakes is arguably better right yeah yeah and i think i think i think they came out with a third version that came with the movie pacifier with vin diesel in it too get out of here yeah i'm joking now correct me if i'm wrong for 189 here oh yeah sorry product of the record was 190 uh 189 i'm pretty sure was much higher on the last list and that's kid icarus yeah kid icarus was in top 100 i think i think i want to say you named kid icarus in like top 50 and i lost it no it's not the list right here it's uh 83 okay still.

28:24 Not that good so and i think they realize it now you know what i mean like hey we kind of have this because how do you go from what 83 to how to what one what 189 exactly yeah oh yeah So within a couple of years, it dropped that much. That just shows you again. Oh, you know what that shows you? They bought another console. Yeah. That's what that told you. That's funny. 188. I don't actually know what this game is. I don't know if you know this game, but if you don't know anything about it, we can move past it. That's a Planescape Torment. Yeah. On PC. Yeah. Do you have anything to say about it or no? No, I did not get into Planescape at all. I just know I was already working at a store and we sold the hell out of Planescape.

29:08 So I know it has a huge following, but now I don't know much about it. Sorry guys. Okay. 187. I have nothing to say because I think this is the most overrated game of all time in my opinion and that is Infamous really? I do love Infamous dude in fact I just started playing Infamous Second Son PS4 because I never played it and I started playing and I was like man I freaking miss the Infamous series. I'm blown away that you don't like Infamous I thought the first one was so overhyped and so I was actually working on the story at the time and you guys were all like oh man it's just so great and then i remember getting it i forgot i think it was like it got really cheap i did not care for it now what i will tell you is, i've really liked only one infamous and that was infamous to the the diary of blood i think it's called vampire one or whatever blood festival yeah that was the old yeah that's that i loved that i thought that was so in even how do you love that one and not even like infamous because it has all the the the aspects of infamous in it sure i agree i just yeah i don't know man i did not care for it and then second son was coolish i guess but yeah i don't i do not care for infamous you know what i like i thought was better because it came out around the same time i thought prototype was better prototype was good though yeah i see this work i mean you disagree you like prototype more i like the infamous more but i respect prototype prototype was pretty dope man the way your character can morph and all that stuff and different abilities yeah prototype was sick all right 186 Marvel Madness hmm.

30:45 Yeah, I get it. Sorry, the arcade version. Yeah, the arcade. Yes, for sure. I get it because that was kind of the first game in arcades, I think, that was kind of like more of a puzzle. It had a puzzle element to it and it was skill based on the trackball. Because you had a trackball. People don't know what a trackball is. It's essentially almost like a cue ball that you play when you're playing billiards or pool. And it's set in the the face where the buttons would be in arcade unit and it's just there and you literally use that to push move left and right and you had to be very precise in the arcade version of marvel madness i remember when they brought it to consoles it used the controller and i was kind of like cheating if you're lucky enough to go get the the trackball peripheral that made it way more arcade like but still not as challenging arcade and that was kind of the attraction to marble madness was the skill base and i remember guys going putting their quarters up in the arcade i was at peter piper pizza i think it was we used to go to there's people lined up just say i can get further than you because i got more skill and that was it was kind of weird because everybody's going for that was back in the days where everybody's going for high score.

32:06 So, I get it. I get it. I don't have much to say, so I'm going to pass that one. 185, and I also think this ranked differently on the top 100, and that is Super Mario World 2, Yoshi's Island. I really liked Super Mario 2. I liked Yoshi's Island. I really did. I thought it was a little too neat. It was definitely made for, I think, a younger generation for sure. But I liked it. I don't have a problem with it being there. Yeah, actually, it didn't even make the top 100 so i was wrong on that moving fast that 184 you know i know this game fairly well but i don't know enough to talk about it i don't think we really have to i think people should look into some of these games themselves and this is 184 the playstation the classic vagrant story, oh so vagrant story i have a story i have a story about vagrant story okay i i think one of the the better games that square came out with on the PlayStation is kind of forgot about kind of like a Einhander same thing.

33:08 But I already had a copy of this game and I loved it. And when KB Toy Store was closing down, I went in there. I was working on them all the time. And that's when I went in there and I bought. And I talked about this before. I bought all the Virtual Boys that they had in stock because they were selling them for $25 each. That's right. Nintendo pulled the plug on them. I was like, how many you got? We got four. I'll take them all, dude. He was like, what? I was like, dude, these things suck. And I was like, yeah, whatever, dude. Just give them to me. And i went in i went into their box that was by the register and it had all these clearance games and i found vagrant story original black because i think later on they came out with a green, label on it i'm not sure about that all i know is i found a sealed copy for five dollars.

33:58 And yeah and back i mean it sounds awesome now but back then it was like nobody knew what vagrant story was so i bought it i still have it sealed never opened that one because i already had one now yeah now that one's starting to become highly sought after and i'm surprised uh square never did a sequel to vagrant story man that game was cool yeah i never got that either i know it had a solid enough following it didn't really go anywhere though after that first one so yeah but you know what today was retro being cool again who knows it probably do like a remake or you know what i mean it's one day and then the original one shoots up in price and i'm i'm all for it. There you go. This one, I'm sure you have something to say. So, 183, NFL 2K5.

34:41 I'm calling it NFL 2K5 to this day, in my opinion. You gotta give us the original version, because we already have almost 40 minutes. Okay, I'll give you the quick version. In my opinion, the best football game ever made from the ground up. You had online play. When you did, it was more accurate than anything that was out there at the time. More fun to play. The presentation that Visual Concepts did on this game to this day has not been replicated. I'm sorry. You can try to debate me all you want. It hasn't. I still play this game on my original Xbox, and I'm just like wowed on the presentation that they do.

35:22 Digital Chris Berman doing the halftime show, showing the highlights, all the stats, the commentator, the fact that you can do a play, and then you hit God, I think it's you hit down on the left stick or something like that. And you can look your person. You got first person football so you could play as alignment. It was fun to play as alignment and block the quarterback. And then you hit the down on the left stick or right stick, depending on your configuration. And your your character would look up at the Jumbotron and the Jumbotron was showing the replay. I mean, just like. Props of visual concepts on there and i hope to god when ea finally gets the nfl license is finally freed up and they have to do another one that they let other companies make an nfl game because the world needs visual concepts back in the football market dude yeah that would be that'd be pretty great man just and really quickly remind me wasn't that game released at at a MRSP of $20?

36:20 It was $20. And that was the first time because NFL 2K was already selling very well. But it wasn't really multi-system. It was mostly on the Dreamcast at the time. But then when Sega started doing, okay, we're making PS2 games. I think that started in 2K3, 2K4, I think it was. But when 2K5 came out, they released the game for $20. It was. Oh, dude, we were selling I mean, we had diehard Madden people coming in and go, let me get that 2K. Why? Because it was 20 bucks. They were about to go blow it on some McDonald's or go to Chili's. You know what I mean? So it's like, why not? Stay home, save money, a great football game.

37:01 And that's what brought a lot of people on board and helped NBA 2K become behemoth that it was. All right. 182. I know you probably have something to say about this, but give me the abridged version. 182 Samurai Showdown, the Neo Geo 1993. Oh, man. Arcade Perfection, the presentation. You first start, and then the camera zooms in. That was the first time I ever seen a game. Remember that? Yeah, I forgot. And they start fighting, and then the camera will zoom in, and then when you spread out, the camera would zoom out and this was all 2D sprites dude this was not polygon this was sprite based and then your swords would come together and you would have to tap the swords and try to come unlocked and somebody would lose their sword and you had to go over it and try to pick it up because you were defenseless dude badass game and I gotta give props to, SNK on this in the Neo Geo arcade it had a lot of people don't know if you could find it you'll still see it but it had a headphone jack so you could pop your headphones in and listen to the stuff all by yourself. And I also had a memory card slot.

38:13 So you can, if you had a Nintendo AES at home, you can take the memory card, say you're playing Metal Slug or whatever the case may be, or even some of the fighting games, a single player mode, and you can save it, take it to the arcade, pop it in, put your quarter in, and it would have the option, would you like to continue your game? Yes. And you would continue from whatever level you were on. That's pretty awesome, man. 181 you know again this is a mega hit game everybody knows about it I feel like we're going to save this title a lot and that is Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 one of my favorites man is that your favorite Call of Duty, No. Okay. I would say Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare. The first Modern Warfare was probably my favorite.

39:04 Yeah, and that's what I want to say because I'm assuming it's going to be on this list. And when it's on that list, we can talk more about Call of Duty. 180, I got to tell you, this is one of the games that I've owned on every single console. I will continue to buy it on every single console. And I will buy it if they remake it. I'll do whatever ever I can because i let me guess go ahead it's not metal gear let me guess laser suit larry, yeah exactly imagine if that game was on here it might be it might be you're right no this game oh my god it means the world to me when i played it it took things that i loved such as film noir and comic books and it made it into a game that you never it was just so ahead of its time storytelling of its time and they're still putting on games just as good as this one obviously much better that is the legendary original max pain yeah i know you're a huge max pain man yeah i i love that game i mean there's very few games have hooked me like that and that game man and then don't get me started about number two number two is my favorite that would max pain max pain 2 would probably be in my top 10 games of all time to be honest What do you feel about them doing the remakes?

40:21 Well, they haven't released that yet, though, right? No, they said they're working on it. Yeah, it's coming. They're working on it, yeah. But here's what I don't know. Is Sam Lake involved again or no? I have no idea. I don't know. Because he's doing all the Alan Wake things right now, right? So I would be curious to see. That's one thing I actually really like about Alan Wake. In the first Alan Wake, when you're in one of the offices, If you look down, it actually put Max Payne in the universe and the book is in there, the Max Payne, Fall of Max Payne. It's the actual book in that universe. Nine have you did you did you get max pain 2 i mean not max pain 2 alan wake 2 i have not played it yet no okay well if you want the physical copy which i always i always push the physical over digital because you actually own it today's last day to get alan wake 2 physical copy from limited run who knows they might release it later on but today's last day but honestly i don't care.

41:21 I'd rather wait till it's free on game best well there goes my whole physical copy thanks guys all right so that's it for retro gaming nomad everybody have a good day, yep all right here we go 179 nba jam yeah man yeah that's a great game uh well it i i gotta go ahead i'll let you go first i was just gonna say we did it me and mike actually did a whole episode on NBA Jam in our early days. So I don't want to get too much. I already said everything I had to say about NBA Jam, so I'm going to let you say what you got to say. So there was a bunch of different versions of NBA Jam. You, of course, had the arcade version. And then you had, at the time, the Super Nintendo version came out, and it was much closer to the arcade.

42:05 And then they had the Genesis version, which anybody who played the Genesis version can tell you, it was much different. It was done by a different development team, and there was stuff in that game that you did not see in a SNES or arcade version. Mainly the size of the characters, their jumping abilities and their blocking abilities. And I gotta say, after playing the arcade version, SNES version, and the Genesis version, and this is not me being a say-good-bye-us guy, because I admit when I am, the Genesis version I thought was way more fun, dude. Okay. I believe you. Anybody who's played all three, they know exactly what I'm talking about, man.

42:50 It was kind of NBA Jam extreme before NBA Jam Extreme came out. They took stuff that much more over the top, and I loved it. Yeah, my favorite version of NBA Jam is the Wii. No, I'm kidding, by the way. Could you imagine that? My favorite NBA Jam was the Wii version. Fired. Fired. Number 178. I don't really know a whole lot about this game. I do know it's loved by a lot of people. There were some great things when it came out, and that was That is Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney. Yeah, Phoenix Wright, Ace Attorney. I get it. I couldn't get into the game because I'm not a reader, so I can't sit there and just listen to it, but I just remember people playing it, and you could hear, Objection!

43:38 Objection! And I was like, that's got to be one of the quirkiest games, which is kind of weird because I like weird games like that and original games, but anything that has a lot of text to it, I typically don't play. And it's not because I don't find them interesting. I just... I'm not real good at comprehension when I read. I've always had that kind of... I don't want to call it a disability or anything like that. But it's just something that I'm not really good at. And I think it's somewhat of my slight dyslexia growing up. And I'm just not a reader, man. But if anybody... Is a reader and likes that kind of, it's kind of a strategy kind of reading law-based anime.

44:25 It's called a, technically it's a visual novel, right? There you go. Yeah. And that's why whenever we talk about like comic books and stuff, I give it to you. Cause I'm like, I don't, I don't do that. Yeah. So, I mean, but, but it's a good game. Check it out. I mean, I definitely think people should check it out. I think it's fair. I think it's worth being on top 200. That's a good, you know what I mean? again i don't know if ape escape is better than that but whatever i'd probably say his attorney is phoenix right is is is probably better than i have to escape. That's so fucking funny these next three sir which i'm just gonna name them off and just move past them because we talked about them before and that is tekken 3 castlevania and dig dug 177 176 175 174 i'm gonna bring up because i know you probably have something to say about it I actually, I love this game, but I'm going to tell you this.

45:16 When I played it, I played it when I was on the Game Boy Advance for the first time. And that is Gunstar Heroes. Oh. You played that on Game Boy? That was the first time I played it, yeah. Shame on you. Well, remember, I didn't have a Sega Genesis growing up. So when I got to play it, it was when it was released on that. And in fact, I think you sold it to me because, you know, I think I was at one of your stores when I was younger. And I think, if I remember correctly, I was looking at the box and you said, oh, that was one of the coolest games when you were growing up. Yeah. And they did a good job. They did a really good job on, I don't think it was, I don't know if it was M2 that did that one, the translation. But yeah, Gunstar Heroes on the Game Boy Advance, they did a really good job on that one and Guardian Heroes as well.

46:00 Well, the Gunstar Heroes was Sega Genesis. Guardian Heroes was Sega Saturn. Both made original original versions both made by my all-time favorite development team treasure who was like kind of a spawned out of a konami. Still to this day my my favorite all-time favorite development team man i love it 173 this is a tricky one because this was this was in the top 100 and now it's not and that is a load runner, yeah yeah i we talked about load runner yeah i i played someone arcade yeah i had a big following but we can move on i i don't i didn't believe it was in the top deserve to be in the top 100 at the time and this just proves me right so this went from 52 to 173.

46:52 Yeah man again i think it comes the fact that these mfs got new consoles and said hey you know what there's a lot of shit out there that uh is better that's so funny 172 and you can dive into this really quickly because i know you got something to say ikaruga gamecube oh yeah what boom home they put on gamecube yeah exactly isn't that crazy i know that's why i said dude they put that that's a sega saturn absolute classic right there you can do it was it that wasn't sega saturn us though right no that's wow oh is that what they're doing top top 100 us U.S.? Yeah, everything's been U.S., dude.

47:38 No, no, I'm saying the list that they're doing, it says top 100 U.S.? It doesn't say that, but I guess it's... No, they can kiss my ass. That's what they say. That's a Sega Saturn classic. Always has been. You could put your TV sideways in vertical, a.k.a. Tate mode on the Sega Saturn. The sprites on that game were absolutely incredible. You bring your... Get the little right button, right shoulder button on the Sega pad to bring out your sword. You could suck up the energy. Explode at two-player mode at the same time just 2d classic bullet hell shmup in my top five all time yeah i know you want to come to shmup yeah yeah number 171 i just really started.

48:22 Nintendo on that just this is that shows you again that shows you again they do not have sega freaking consoles man yeah but again but but i'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to be the judge on this one and I have to tell you it has to be because they're going with US launches I know it doesn't say that but that has to be what they're doing, We'll see. We'll see. Okay. All right. 171. I just started replaying this game actually on the PC because I never beat it. And that is the Rockstar Classic Bully. Yeah, I couldn't get into Bully. So I'm going to leave this one to you. Yeah, Bully, I really dig. It's basically just Grand Theft Auto, but for teenagers, right? You play a kid who's like a troublemaker, but he's like the bad boy.

49:05 He's like the Fonzie, right? He's like the Fonz where it's like he's a bad boy, but he has a heart of gold, right? That kind of thing. but it has the classic rock star sense of humor. You know, if you play Grand Theft Auto, you know what I'm talking about, but it's more toned down. Really, the only thing that you couldn't do in that game anymore, I was replaying it. They're making a lot of jokes about gays, and I definitely know you can't do that no more. Yeah. I mean, look at what they did on GTA, Ballad of Gay Tony. You know what I mean? It just, it ain't happening no more. I will say on Bully, I got a good shout out to my coworker, Chloe. Who is the biggest bully fan that I know. So any release that they do of Bully, she buys.

49:47 Usually multiple copies, even if they changed the box art and they did the PlayStation Greatest Hits version, she got it. I think even her password to get in the computer was something that had to do with Bully. So Chloe, if you're listening, props to you, biggest Bully fan I know. That's funny. 170, this was actually also in the top 100, and now it's not. We talked about it last time. and that is ridge racer yeah you know what i don't have a problem with it being a top 100 though ridge racer was one of the other than virtual racing it was one of the first polygonal, racing games and namco just knocked it out of the park man with a different you know the camera the helicopters coming above you i mean it gave it gave virtual racing obviously a run for its money it was it was like you know virtual racing on steroids if you will and then the big one at At the time, the arcade was Daytona and Ridge Racer held its own, man, because it was more of a single player racing game.

50:46 And when it eventually came to the PlayStation for home, it was it was basically arcade perfect, man. I game's phenomenal. And the drifting, the drifting on the game was sick. And anybody who gets the PlayStation version, you got to go out and you know about this because I always, always freaking preach about this controller. You have to get the Namco Nedgecon controller. The greatest racing controller ever made. And we'll let's put a picture of it on our, on the, on the, on your, uh, uncle dad. Yeah. Cause it was, it was a controller that had like a little spin wheel in the middle and you would twist your controller left or right.

51:27 And it was the first, first controller that had analog buttons for gas and brake and, and the shoulder buttons were analog as well. So it was fantastic for Ridge racer and it really worked well for wipeout. You beat anybody's time with this controller and it was almost like it was cheating, but it wasn't because when you plug the controller in, Ridge Racer and Wipeout recognize the Negicon controller, and it had the different screen that you can go to and modify the controller. Fantastic. But here's my thing, though. It went from 51 to 170. So they decided at this point that Ape Escape is still better.

52:09 Fuck. I'm an ape escape, dude. When can I escape from ape? Well, I'm curious if it's on this list. It's probably like 400. I don't think it's going to be on this list anymore. I really don't think so. Alright, these next ones, we're going to kill them real fast. 169, 168, 167. Braid. Tempest 2000. Jaguar. Doom 2. PC. oh i gotta say tempest 2000 jaguar is an incredible game man it is worth that one and and and alien versus predator worth the price of admission yeah i agree i absolutely agree those are great games, 166 165 we don't have to talk about it and that is king's quest four five and peggle wow, I think that's wild. The Peggle's even on this list. But I'm more okay with it.

53:07 I wouldn't even argue that Peggle's better than Ape Escape. It is better than Ape Escape. Everything's better than Ape Escape. Oh, man. Why? We'll get to that later. Anyways. I'd rather play Double Dragon with one button than play Ape Escape. I know. Uh 164 and 163 uh is x-com uh ufo defense but that's the original pc version i've never played that so which they re-released just recently yep but i never played the original 1993 release so i can't talk about it and the second one and 163 is robotron 2084 arcane classic oh yeah arcade classic right there dude robotron for sure arcade classic 162 and i gotta be honest with you this in my opinion is the weakest of the of the series and that is far cry the first one yeah, now do they say pc or console pc i know the pc is probably great yeah yeah the pc was different than the console the console version of far cry i think came out a little bit too late but i remember when the first far cry came out my friend elton got it and we saw it and that was Because at that time, the most beautiful first-person shooter game I've ever seen.

54:34 The water, the jungle, everything. And I think it might have got on this list just because of that. Because it was shocking on how advanced their visuals were to anything that was out at the time. They really took it to the next level. And you can only play it on PC at that time because the consoles, there's no way they can handle them. And it didn't come out until later on. But for the series, I agree, and I think me and you both agree, that there's two Far Cries that stick out. I'm going to say one of them, and I know you know the other one. Far Cry 3. And you know the other one. I'm going to say Far Cry 5. Which one are you going to say? Tell me. Remember, it was the little expansion for Far Cry 3?

55:18 No, but that doesn't count, because that's not an expansion. That's not the game. That kind of counts, dude, because they re-released it as its own. And it was 80s glory, dude. Come on. Yeah, Blood Dragon. Yeah, Blood Dragon's great. But I'm going to tell you this, man. Far Cry 3, I love, but I don't think it's the best. I think Far Cry 5 is the best, and I'll tell you why. Far Cry 3 is great the first half because of the villain, right? That villain is amazing. Vos, he is just... You've never seen somebody like that in a video game. At least not in a long time. And then when he's gone, the game's not that great anymore. I think the villain... Nobody remembers who the fuck that other villain is after that. You know what I mean? It's kind of weak. but Far Cry 5, have you played that? Have you beat it?

56:02 I haven't beat it, no but it didn't grab me the way Far Cry 3 did Dude, Far Cry, you gotta give it another chance I think you should give it another chance I'll give it another shot, for sure Now that you said that, I will fight I've been kind of fiending to play a first person, shooter that's not Doom, that's not you know. That style just shmup I'm not shmup, but just like mindless shoot-em-up first-person shooter, so I'll give number five another shot, but I remember playing it. I put a couple hours into it and it didn't grab me that much, so I'm kind of surprised that you liked that one more than three. Too, because that game gets better the more you play it. Because I kind of agree with you. When I first started playing it, I don't think it really hooked me.

56:47 But then the more and more you play it, and you learn about these different characters, and this main character, and the ending, the ending just makes it so worth it because it's kind of like a twist ending, and you're like, oh, fuck. You know what I mean? I would say that first statement that you made, I don't know, man. Could you do get a lot better in Far Cry 3? because you've got to remember, the whole Sambuca shots, you're partying with your boys, and then you're a scared little kid. By the end of Far Cry 3, you are a freaking badass, dude. You are missing for trouble. Yeah, but see, here's the thing. The gameplay wasn't my issue. That's not what I'm saying. It's the story that I have an issue with.

57:27 No, let's talk about the character. I'm just talking about the character in general. Okay. Yeah, you're right. When the antagonist, the main, well, I wouldn't say the main one, one but yeah the one the one guy who does all the horrible stuff he does yeah i agree like after that it's like okay what am i doing yeah right i mean dude but far cry 5 when i said when i also when i say character and i guess i should have specified i meant that the villain the main villain he is so good and you know and the actor who plays it like you can just tell like because you know this one not far cry 3 they didn't do mocap yet like full-on mocap performances where this one it's a full-on mocap performance so you can tell that's a man acting and it's like Like, oh, man, it's so good.

58:08 And again, that ending, I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't played it, but the ending is just, it's insane. It's like everything you're doing and then the ending hits and you're like, whoa, what the fuck? And for those who aren't familiar with the term mocap, that means motion capture. So they actually take the characters, actors, put those little shiny balls on them and actually film them talking and stuff like that. So it looks way, way more realistic. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. so they so next three we'll just power through these as well 161 is geometry wars ah geometry wars retro evolved 360 160 is thief the original pc classic 159 is the pc classic battlefield 1942, great game 158 as well we don't talk about because let's be honest everybody their whole mother and arguably this game should be in the top 50s that we're talking about performance or sorry uh like necessity in gaming, and that's Pong.

59:07 Yeah, top 50 for sure. You can play Pong to this day and have fun with it. It's like Galaga. Yeah, it's like Galaga. It's virtual tennis... Alpha you know what i mean like it's it's it's the very very first kind of one-on-one i'm better than you at this ridiculous little sports game and it could still start fights to this day 100 100 157 is the ps2 classic devil may cry oh yeah which which a lot of people know this was supposed to be named resident evil yes yeah yeah it was well it was supposed to be the new kind of like revamp resident evil after resident evil was it three i think it was and then it was it was kind of like quiet for a while and then they were yeah if you look at the original if you find the original code for devil may cry it actually says re on it yeah it's crazy too because i actually vaguely remember that because i think a magazine was talking about it i think right well like there was magazines reporting on that dome that before that was called down by my cry that resident evil is going to be more action oriented right yep just like uh just like.

1:00:19 Assassin's creed assassin's creed was was going to be prince of persia that's right yep yeah don't make cry i mean one of the best action games i think action horror games to ever come out i think the first the first two specifically the second one i think are just absolutely incredible then they remade it which was a cool remake called don't make cry but you know what i mean It became its own big-time franchise, right? Yeah, I was like, what? It was called DMC or something like that? Yeah, DMC. I didn't like two. I didn't like two. I loved one. I didn't like two. But I loved three. Dante's... No, I'm sorry. Or something like that, but I didn't care I got that mixed up, I'm sorry that's the one I really loved was the third one, sorry, because the second one was two discs and it sucked yeah, it was mediocre at best, they took a step back on that one, number 156 is the arcade classic, the original Gauntlet the original Gauntlet that's great badly.

1:01:24 Oh my god, we threw so many quarters into that game in the arcade. Oh, my God. Tokens. That's the first time I learned what stringing is. So we would get a string or, at the time, my girlfriend's hair. She had really long hair, really long black hair, like went down to her butt. And anyways, we'd get her hair and we'd take some tape, tape her hair to a quarter and just gently slide it into the coin slot. And we'd hear it to where it registered. her and when you do that one it goes oh what did gauntlet say it didn't say anything i think it just went and i would sit there and just kind of flicker the the or trigger the the hair or her hair and it would go and we would put so many freaking credits in that thing man to try to finish it and i had all my friends because it's a four-player arcade game and then eventually we got busted and kicked out but i i just i just remember somebody would you'd play four players And it was like, oh, wizard, shut the food.

1:02:25 And you're like, dude, what the fuck, man? You get all pissed off at everybody. And if nobody's played this, when it comes to Gauntlet, there was Gauntlet on the Sega Genesis. And I want to say it was called Gauntlet 4, maybe. Maybe. But it was essentially the arcade version, kind of on steroids, but it had a battle mode in there. Do you remember that? No, I don't, actually. Yeah, so you can hook up the four-player adapter to the Genesis, play four-player co-op, but it also had a battle mode on there, dude. And I would always choose the wizard because I'd freeze time, and I'd go up and just hack them with my staff because everybody chose the elf or the warrior, and I was like, dude, I'm going to jack you guys up, man. That was some fun, man.

1:03:10 If you can find Gauntlet on the Genesis, it's pretty pricey. But four-player mode battle was fun. Well, you have a lot to say about that game. You have a lot to say about this next one. Also, I think what we're going to do here, sir, is we're already at an hour. So let's just make this in two parts as well. And we're going to go to 150, then we'll do the rest next episode. Sound good? Yeah, because when you told me we're going to go through 100, I was like, there's no way. There's no way we're going to go through 100 games in like 45 or 200 games. 45 minutes. No way. So we'll just go to 150 and then we'll stop there. Alright, so the next game though, I know you're going to have something to say because you were arguably the reason why that game sold so well at our store.

1:03:54 And that is the Xbox 360 classic at number 155, Crackdown. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crackdown, man. I used to tell everybody like, hey, you got to try this game. A lot of people bought it because I believe it came with a demo of halo i thought it i think was the only way around for halo yeah halo came with demo of crackdown that's right you're right and i was like dude this game's pretty badass man and i'm not a fan of really a big fan of third-person shooters but it was more of kind of an advanced adventure kind of shooter and i to this day think that it has one of the best targeting systems ever made on a third-person shooter so if nobody knows especially when you get like the sniper rifle so you'll get the sniper rifle and you can aim at somebody and it goes into first person mode but then you can use the d-pad to target the head the torso left arm right arm and i just thought that was ingenious so you would zoom in and say there was some guy who had who had a he was holding the bazooka in his right arm you zoom in you then hit the right d-pad and it would target his right arm and you would just snipe and that whole arm would just just fall off sometimes the weapon would explode and i was like man how come more people aren't more development teams aren't using this technique i thought it was awesome dude and then if you aim for the head remember the receptacle it would take a while for to really go to pinpoint headshot,

1:05:26 that was that was badass dude yeah you know crackdown was one of those games that i remember um. I think that was developed by one of the original Grand Theft Auto developers, right? Yes. Yeah, and then he went on to do that before he went on, and then he left that to do APB, which I don't know why. But anyways, Crackdown, I really, really didn't get into at first. Even when you were talking about it, I really didn't get into it. I actually got more into it later in life when one day, actually not that long ago, I was like, you know what? I should really give this game a try because it's free on Game Pass. And I was like, man, this is this is such a solid game. Like, it's such a solid. But the thing is, Crackdown 2 was also pretty solid. But Crackdown 3, I did not give a shit about.

1:06:11 I kind of it grew on me. So Crackdown 1, fantastic. Crackdown 2, they kind of got rid of the targeting system, which I was kind of pissed off about. At least they kind of did. You didn't use a D-pad anymore. You use your analog stick and you could still target. But it just wasn't as intuitive. It wasn't as accurate. But Crackdown 3, at first, I was like, okay, I see where they're going, more flashiness. But as I played it, it kind of grew on me. And I love Terry Crews' character in it. Yeah. No, he's great. He's great. Yeah, dude, I loved his character, especially, like, later on when he started powering up. He started saying stuff that he wasn't saying in the very beginning.

1:06:52 And I just liked that he had fun with it. And to this day, I always wanted to meet Terry Crews so he could sign my copy of Crackdown 3. because I personally think Crackdown 3 was an underrated game. I don't think it was the greatest. I don't think it's the best of the Crackdown series by far, but I thought it didn't get as much love as it should have. For the Xbox One, including what was that one game where you I think you were on skates and... Oh, Sunshine Overdrive? Yeah, dude, same thing, man. Sunset Overdrive. Sunset Overdrive, yeah. I put in the same thing as Sunset Overdrive. I don't think it got the props it should have. It was a fun game.

1:07:32 Yeah, you know, Crackdown in general, I think if you're going to put any Crackdown on the top 200 list, it should be the first one, right? But think about this. Ape Escape is still better than Crackdown. Let's end it on that note. We still got five more. I want to go to 150. Okay, okay. So we're going to go to 150 here. If they got Ape Escape above of like toe jamming or all i'm fucking losing my shit dude 154 this is another one you're probably gonna think it's controversial for me i actually think it's one of the most overrated ps3 games or sony games of all time it's cool i know what it did like technology wise i know what it did as far as like creative wise i think you're i think you liked it a lot and that's awesome i just think they made way too many of them and it inspired too much and in my opinion it's It's the first one's the only one that's okay.

1:08:27 And that is a little big planet. I would probably agree with you on that one. Really? I thought you would disagree. No, because I agree. LittleBigPlanet was cool. I never really did like their jumping mechanics. I hated it. I hated the jumping mechanics. Yeah, I didn't like it. I thought number two was good because of the whole, the way you can make your own game, your own levels and stuff. And I thought that added a lot to it. For those who weren't able to dig deep into it, it i i highly recommend you go back because it's it's it's a little bit easier to play and then that spawned the game uh i don't know if you ever picked up dreams for ps4 where you can actually literally develop your own game and that's kind of spawned from little big planet 2 when they first kind of dabbled in that it was a great idea but if you don't have a keyboard and mouse trying to program it with a controller is just impossible yeah i mean i'm not gonna hate on that It was fun. It was fun, but.

1:09:29 There's definitely better out there. It Takes Two is one that comes to my mind right away. Oh, sure, sure. 153? I don't think we're talking about this because it's an arcade classic, and that is Asteroids. Yeah. Yeah. Still in my opinion one of the best music if you want to call it a soundtrack because it was making jaws you know what i mean it was like no no no and it was and it's got but dude if you ever played the arcade it was so loud yeah it was so loud like it didn't matter where you were in the bowling alley man you can hear freaking asteroids going off it was crazy and i love the tabletop version yeah 152 I believe you I think you and I share this in common also, before I even say this game I'm going to say this game and then I want you to keep in mind that Ape Escape is higher than this game and this game is Xeno Saga Episode 1 oh my god oh, my god and Ape Escape is still beating it as of right now right right? Oh, my God.

1:10:39 Xeno Saga, in my opinion, is one of the coolest RPGs I ever played back in the day. I agree. You know, it was so unique. And then I think there were three of them, right? There were three and a bunch of little like spin-off ones, too. Yeah. Yeah. That was a game I remember we would get here and there at the shop. And I remember people would always be like, oh, man, I love this. To be honest, I haven't played that probably since those days but i remember it being it wasn't it wasn't real time or was it the turn base i can't remember it was kind of both it depends it depend on yeah it depend on the scenario that you're in yeah yeah one of the first games that actually do that actually, i see i thought so too because i was thinking about that as well i was like i'm pretty sure like they did that before final fantasy did that with final fantasy 10-2 where they had that weird hybrid thing yeah yeah but great game i think there's a collection right or no yeah, Xenosaga 1 and 2, I don't know if they added 3 and like I said they did a couple of spin-offs I don't, off the top of my head I can't remember exactly what they were but I mean they even did like re-release it for like the Switch, as a collection but yeah Xenosaga and then they Xenogears.

1:11:56 Great games man great games number 151 to be honest Honestly, again, this is how I feel. Very overrated. Overrated game, but I do understand the importance of it. And that is Fable. I think Fable's overrated, man. That's what I'm saying. I think Fable's very overrated. But I do understand. I completely agree. Yeah. I completely agree. And I know a lot of people love Fable, Fable 2, and eventually Fable 3. I just thought they were overrated. It's a classic case of Peter Molyneux, the developer, who over-promised and under-delivered. Always. On almost everyone. And then topped it off. Remember when the Xbox One came out and it had the Kinect?

1:12:41 Oh, yeah, dude. I'll never forget that. That Milo game that he was promoting? Yeah. And it was all the future. Milo, you can hand him a piece of paper and he brings it into the game and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, never came true. Never happened. Another classic Peter Molyneux moment. And I got a signature. I have a signature on Fable 3. Oh, wow. I wasn't in person to get it. I got to admit, because I think if I was, I probably would have told him, is this one going to live up to your promises? Because I just, they were okay to me. They were just okay. Yeah, I agree with you. And then I know that they just announced the new Fable, or the Fable remake, right? But he's not going to be involved in that anymore.

1:13:25 Thank God. Maybe whoever did. Maybe it'll be good. Exactly. Exactly. So, we'll end it here at 150. I've actually never played this game, but I think you have so hopefully it was good the good things to say so we could end off on a good note and yeah ending at 150 for this part of the episode of game informers top 200 of 2009 that is act razor on the super nintendo i did play a little bit of act razor not a lot of it and i gotta say it's still better than ape escape. That's how you got the episode, well do you know is there anything you can say about it because i really don't know much about it at all no man i just i i played a little bit at my friend's house i think it was my friend marvin's house but a little bit act razor everybody else was kind of into it at the time so i didn't get a lot of gameplay i'm sure it's great i really can't i really can't remember too much on act razor i did have fun i know i had fun with it but it wasn't something that i was like oh i I got to go out and, you know, get the system specifically for this game or make me want to buy the game at all.

1:14:33 But I know there's a big falling for ActRaiser, so I respect it. So you think it deserves to be on the list? At what number? 150. I'm going to probably going to default to their list only because I can't really say yay or nay on that. Gotcha. But you would agree it's definitely better than Ape Escape. The little bit that I played was better than Ape Escape, for sure. That's so funny. Yeah, so we're already at hour 20, so we'll end it here, guys. So you don't have to sit here and listen for another hour. We'll bring up the next episode soon. But yes, we made it to 200 to 150. Who will be 150 to 1? I'm kind of doing a school through, and I can tell you, you're going to be limited when we get to top 50.

1:15:21 I probably will, because we still haven't said Musha yet. Remind me of that one? It's a shoot-em-up on Sega Genesis. One of the best shoot-em-ups ever, dude. Dude, you know that's not going to be on there. It better freaking be on there, dude. Musha better be on there. We haven't said Space Harrier yet. We haven't said Alien vs. Predator or Sidescroller. Dude, well, here's my thing, too. You're talking about shooters. What about, like you brought it up earlier, Einhander? That should be on there, I think. What the hell's Einhander at? Yeah, well, it's not better than Ape Escape. Here all right and we said we do we talk about our type yet no but in the in the top 100 it wasn't the top 75 okay there we go okay that one never that might change now so it may change for sure it may change but uh until next time everybody please be sure to follow us on instagram that it's at uncle dad talks and of course at retro gaming nomad you've got to go follow us because Because there's lots of great content on there.

1:16:22 And of course, we also do the main show, Uncle Dad Talks, hosted by myself and just Mike. Just to throw this out there, this will come out on a Tuesday or Wednesday. And when this comes out, me and Mike will be at San Diego Comic-Con 2024. If you guys are there and you see our booth, we'll be there with the Bart Bridge booth at booth 1619. Come by, say hello, and grab some dope hats. I mean, you would agree, right, sir? They're good dope hats. Dope, dope, dope hats. and they have a little slot for your business card. I do have to bring something up, though. One of the games that we brought up, I think you said Ikaruga on GameCube, right? Yes. Okay, my bad. I was thinking Radiant Silvergun on the Sega Saturn.

1:17:05 Ikaruga came out on the Dreamcast. Yeah, that's what I remember, and that's why you said Sega Saturn. I was like, oh, interesting. I'm thinking of Radiant Silvergun. Ikaruga, so let's correct that. Ikaruga, my bad, guys, is like the spiritual successor to Radiant Silvergun, So I'm thinking of Radiant and Silvergun on the Sega Center. Ikaruga Dreamcast. But, but, nonetheless, they should have put the Dreamcast version. They should have, because it was also what the arcade was based on. So shame on them. Shame on them indeed. Again, they didn't have a Sega console, obviously. I can't wait, because I'm looking at this right now, and I can't wait for us to do this one, because you are going to lose your shit on some of these. Because some of the ones that were originally higher up are now farther back.

1:17:48 And some of those ones meant a lot to you so we'll see you're in for a treat my friend remind me to take an aspirin, i don't have i don't have a heart attack and have like a defibrillator around or something yeah i definitely will all right everybody i remember peace love game on and we'll see you all probably next week for this one we'll keep this going we'll try to get the series out quicker so we'll see you all uh next week bye. Music.