Episode 128: Talk w/ Grammy winning musician, Keith Frazier(Rebirth Brass Brand)

1 00:00:00,657 --> 00:00:03,857 This episode is brought to you by Skyline Smart Energy. 2 00:00:04,157 --> 00:00:08,057 It's a new year, which unfortunately means that your electric bill has increased. 3 00:00:08,317 --> 00:00:12,797 PG&E is now California's most expensive power provider, and they're already 4 00:00:12,797 --> 00:00:15,637 looking to increase rates again this year. 5 00:00:15,937 --> 00:00:19,357 If you're looking to save hundreds of dollars each year on your electric bill, 6 00:00:19,477 --> 00:00:21,557 then call Skyline Smart Energy today. 7 00:00:21,937 --> 00:00:26,657 By going solar with Skyline, you can lock in a consistent energy rate that is 8 00:00:26,657 --> 00:00:30,257 lower than what you're paying for now. You'll know exactly how much you'll be 9 00:00:30,257 --> 00:00:34,977 paying for for the next 25 years and you'll no longer have to worry about seasonal rate changes. 10 00:00:35,677 --> 00:00:40,317 Plus, right now Skyline is offering a free year of Brinks Home Security when 11 00:00:40,317 --> 00:00:41,897 you get solar installed today. 12 00:00:42,157 --> 00:00:46,357 Not only will you save each money next month, but you'll also be able to secure 13 00:00:46,357 --> 00:00:47,857 your family and your home. 14 00:00:48,077 --> 00:00:54,337 So do yourself a favor and call or text 209-573-0589. 15 00:00:54,337 --> 00:01:01,517 Again, that number is 209-573-0589 to get a free energy savings consultation 16 00:01:01,517 --> 00:01:04,457 about your path to energy independence today. 17 00:01:04,697 --> 00:01:08,197 Guidelines Smart Energy. Take control over rising energy costs. 18 00:01:08,717 --> 00:01:12,217 All right, everybody. Welcome to this week's episode of Uncle Dad Talks. 19 00:01:12,217 --> 00:01:15,357 I'm Uncle Dad, and with me as always is the ever so handsome, 20 00:01:15,537 --> 00:01:18,197 the raging Cajun himself, Mike Hampton. 21 00:01:18,897 --> 00:01:21,337 The raging Cajun in the house, yes. Yes. Indeed. 22 00:01:22,037 --> 00:01:26,117 Mike, it's exciting because this is now your second week in a row where I'm 23 00:01:26,117 --> 00:01:29,577 giving you the keys and you're taking us for a ride. How do you feel about that? 24 00:01:29,637 --> 00:01:30,377 Do you feel like you graduated? 25 00:01:31,277 --> 00:01:34,637 I feel like my driving skills are getting better. 26 00:01:35,357 --> 00:01:41,737 I'm learning. I'm learning. I'm learning how to make turns and drive the speed limit. 27 00:01:42,377 --> 00:01:46,017 What do you think? Would you agree or would you not agree? I think you got to 28 00:01:46,017 --> 00:01:48,237 go a little faster. You know what I mean? 29 00:01:48,877 --> 00:01:54,457 Okay. You got to give the need for speed, you know, but today's guest is a very 30 00:01:54,457 --> 00:01:56,137 special one and I'll let you introduce them. 31 00:01:56,317 --> 00:02:01,817 But Mike, I know that we were kind of celebrating all things NOLA this month, 32 00:02:01,897 --> 00:02:04,857 so very excited to also have this guest on as well. 33 00:02:05,177 --> 00:02:09,217 Mike, without further ado, catch them keys because I'm giving them to you now. 34 00:02:09,617 --> 00:02:12,157 Go ahead and introduce our very lovely guest. 35 00:02:12,867 --> 00:02:16,407 Yeah, well, very excited for this guest. 36 00:02:16,507 --> 00:02:21,807 Yes, in celebration of Carnival and Mardi Gras this month in New Orleans and Louisiana, 37 00:02:22,047 --> 00:02:28,367 we have the bass drummer and one of the founding members of the Grammy Award 38 00:02:28,367 --> 00:02:35,047 winning and award show performing, as well as another Grammy nomination in 2019. 39 00:02:36,387 --> 00:02:40,267 Rebirth Brass Band co-founding member, Keith Frazier. 40 00:02:40,947 --> 00:02:44,887 Keith, welcome. Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah. 41 00:02:45,987 --> 00:02:50,027 So who holds on to the Grammy award? Like, is that, you know, 42 00:02:50,027 --> 00:02:52,687 cause I hear a lot of times people win a Grammy, they, they, 43 00:02:52,687 --> 00:02:55,547 they downplay it and they say, oh, it's in the bathroom on top of the, 44 00:02:55,607 --> 00:02:58,447 on top of the toilet shelf. 45 00:02:58,607 --> 00:03:02,547 Who has the Grammy and where is this? Well, actually, so the way it goes, 46 00:03:02,607 --> 00:03:05,807 if you have less than nine members, I'm not sure if the rules are still the same. 47 00:03:06,287 --> 00:03:09,607 Everyone in the band will get a Grammy. And since we had eight band members, 48 00:03:09,607 --> 00:03:12,547 we all receive a trophy so everyone has their individual 49 00:03:12,547 --> 00:03:15,667 trophies i'm not certain where they put them at my trophy 50 00:03:15,667 --> 00:03:19,287 is actually sitting right here in my living room a lot 51 00:03:19,287 --> 00:03:22,367 of times when people come in the house they ask me is that real like yeah 52 00:03:22,367 --> 00:03:25,487 like what they don't want to take a picture with it and you know 53 00:03:25,487 --> 00:03:28,327 so i say hey pick it up take a picture you know and they 54 00:03:28,327 --> 00:03:30,967 want to find out well what do you do you know because i live 55 00:03:30,967 --> 00:03:35,807 in texas now so people here don't know who the hell i am who are you like just 56 00:03:35,807 --> 00:03:40,087 a regular guy man playing the band uh-huh yeah and then they see that and they're 57 00:03:40,087 --> 00:03:44,367 like wait a minute what kind of band exactly so you have to explain to them 58 00:03:44,367 --> 00:03:48,687 what new orleans is all about brass bands and that kind of stuff they're pretty receptive to it, 59 00:03:49,147 --> 00:03:52,307 okay interesting yeah i didn't realize you didn't live in 60 00:03:52,307 --> 00:03:55,187 uh in new orleans anymore so i'm gonna get to i'm 61 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:58,027 gonna get to more of that later but you guys 62 00:03:58,027 --> 00:04:01,567 also um rebirth just celebrated celebrated 35 years 63 00:04:01,567 --> 00:04:04,387 recently right like a 35 year 64 00:04:04,387 --> 00:04:07,967 anniversary of a band so are you 65 00:04:07,967 --> 00:04:10,807 one is that one of the long that has to be one of the longest running 66 00:04:10,807 --> 00:04:15,047 brass bands in new orleans right actually the band has been around 40 years 67 00:04:15,047 --> 00:04:21,627 i started in the band when i was 14 or 55 now so and it went about it went really 68 00:04:21,627 --> 00:04:27,207 fast doesn't seem like 40 years at all and uh we try to celebrate as much as 69 00:04:27,207 --> 00:04:28,307 we possibly can every year 70 00:04:28,747 --> 00:04:30,667 when we reached that milestone. 71 00:04:31,087 --> 00:04:35,267 Like, hey, we've been around for... Because the average lifespan of a band is five years. 72 00:04:35,927 --> 00:04:39,747 So after five years, bands normally break up. So we've been here 40 years, 73 00:04:39,767 --> 00:04:40,407 so we're kind of blessed. 74 00:04:41,047 --> 00:04:45,207 Yeah. And the other bands are the ones that have been around just as long as 75 00:04:45,207 --> 00:04:48,147 longer, not necessarily with Brad's fans. Got the Nevels. 76 00:04:49,011 --> 00:04:52,271 Irma Thomas band, a lot of different bands that have been together for a very 77 00:04:52,271 --> 00:04:56,931 long time. Yeah. Preservation Hall. You know, different. Preservation Hall. Yeah. Yeah. 78 00:04:57,951 --> 00:05:01,651 So you started, what was it? If I'm, correct me if I'm wrong, 79 00:05:01,731 --> 00:05:04,891 in 1983 with your brother, Phil, right? 80 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:08,731 Right. So in 1983, my brother, Phil Afraez, myself, Kermit Ruffins, 81 00:05:08,791 --> 00:05:12,851 and some other guys, we went high school just messing around and went out of 82 00:05:12,851 --> 00:05:15,431 the quarters to play for some tips. And here we are 40 years later. 83 00:05:16,131 --> 00:05:20,231 Were you guys like, yeah, Kermit Ruffin's legendary trumpet player, 84 00:05:20,391 --> 00:05:24,851 which is amazing that, you know, you guys were the nucleus of starting the band. 85 00:05:24,971 --> 00:05:28,331 Were you guys like in band class together? Like, how does it come to be? 86 00:05:28,951 --> 00:05:32,491 We were all in high school marching band together. And my brother Phillip was 87 00:05:32,491 --> 00:05:36,771 asked to put a group of guys together to go play at the Sheraton Hotel in downtown New Orleans. 88 00:05:37,311 --> 00:05:40,671 And at the time, I was still in junior high school. And they went down to play 89 00:05:40,671 --> 00:05:44,091 at the Sheraton. They said, hey, we can't let you guys play because they're serving alcohol. 90 00:05:44,551 --> 00:05:46,571 So my brother said, hey, man, I have a great idea. 91 00:05:47,111 --> 00:05:49,811 Let's go on Bourbon Street and play for tips this week. We're headed back home 92 00:05:49,811 --> 00:05:53,271 anyway. Let's make a couple of dollars. And everyone in the band kind of liked 93 00:05:53,271 --> 00:05:54,551 the idea of playing for tips. 94 00:05:55,151 --> 00:05:57,751 Kermit wasn't in the band at the time. And they said, hey, man, 95 00:05:57,811 --> 00:06:01,291 we could do this over the course of the summer. Instead of working some summer 96 00:06:01,291 --> 00:06:02,771 job, we could come out here and play for tips. 97 00:06:03,471 --> 00:06:06,431 And that's pretty much how that started. That was the start, 98 00:06:06,511 --> 00:06:09,731 huh? Just playing on Bourbon. Playing on Bourbon for tips, that's it. 99 00:06:10,451 --> 00:06:14,891 Yeah, with all the tourists. and I mean I'm sure bourbon was a whole was a whole 100 00:06:14,891 --> 00:06:19,171 different scene whole different whole different scene because at the time we 101 00:06:19,171 --> 00:06:23,051 started there were a lot of jazz clubs on bourbon like the Famous Door a couple other clubs, 102 00:06:23,671 --> 00:06:27,691 on bourbon I can't remember the exact names but they were they were probably 103 00:06:27,691 --> 00:06:32,151 five or six different jazz clubs with actual actual live bands playing in those 104 00:06:32,151 --> 00:06:35,171 clubs now bourbon is mostly daiquiri shops, 105 00:06:35,831 --> 00:06:41,151 beer you know beer holes there's no real it almost feels like. 106 00:06:41,837 --> 00:06:44,797 When I go to new Orleans and I, you know, I'll walk down bourbon, 107 00:06:44,837 --> 00:06:47,957 I don't go to bourbon, but I'll walk down there. 108 00:06:48,057 --> 00:06:51,897 And it almost feels like I'm in Tijuana now when I'm there, it just, 109 00:06:52,077 --> 00:06:55,937 you know, like to get the people blowing the whistles with the, 110 00:06:55,937 --> 00:06:59,617 with the drink and the little syringe and they're trying to shove it in your 111 00:06:59,617 --> 00:07:03,137 mouth and you know, yeah, just different scene. 112 00:07:03,797 --> 00:07:09,017 But so, so are you and your brother, are you, you and Phil, are you guys like best friends? 113 00:07:09,017 --> 00:07:11,977 Like you guys always hanging out back then at this point or was the 114 00:07:11,977 --> 00:07:15,297 band kind of what brought you guys close well because 115 00:07:15,297 --> 00:07:18,377 my brother philip was a couple years older than myself he was 116 00:07:18,377 --> 00:07:21,657 in high school i was in junior high school and when he actually put everything 117 00:07:21,657 --> 00:07:25,477 together i was just on the sideline kind of watching i thought those guys are 118 00:07:25,477 --> 00:07:29,597 crazy like you're gonna do what and i was actually like he said we're gonna 119 00:07:29,597 --> 00:07:32,257 play in the french quarter would you like to be the grand marshal there's a 120 00:07:32,257 --> 00:07:36,377 video actually i have a video of myself dancing in front of the band i'm all all dancing, 121 00:07:36,557 --> 00:07:39,397 having a good time. I'm collecting the tips, passing the hat. 122 00:07:39,817 --> 00:07:42,337 And it just so happened, the guy who was playing the bass drum that summer, 123 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:44,517 he had to work one of those summer jobs. 124 00:07:45,077 --> 00:07:47,237 So they had to go play in this housing project in New Orleans to see, 125 00:07:47,317 --> 00:07:49,937 hey man, get the drum. I'm like, what? He said, you get the drum, 126 00:07:49,957 --> 00:07:52,777 you're going to play the bass drum. And here I am 40 years later. 127 00:07:53,437 --> 00:07:58,177 Yeah, yeah. Just threw you right in there. Just threw me in there. 128 00:07:58,937 --> 00:08:03,117 I tried playing the harmonica when I was a kid and my dad got me and it was 129 00:08:03,117 --> 00:08:03,977 just horrible. is horrible. 130 00:08:04,177 --> 00:08:09,037 I'm glad there's no video of me playing anything. It's all an instrument to play, though. 131 00:08:10,057 --> 00:08:12,397 Harmonica, yeah, it's all to do. We need to bring that back. 132 00:08:15,017 --> 00:08:21,897 That's how we'll start opening the show. I'll do a harmonica duo. Good idea. There you go. 133 00:08:23,117 --> 00:08:29,317 Did Rebirth need a harmonicist? Is that a harmonicist? We don't need a harmonica or harmonicist. 134 00:08:30,057 --> 00:08:33,577 Neither do we need a guitar player. young. Okay. Right. 135 00:08:34,657 --> 00:08:39,417 Man, man, I, uh, so I'm, so I'm reading about the band, you know, 136 00:08:39,417 --> 00:08:40,797 doing some research on you guys. 137 00:08:40,837 --> 00:08:45,097 And one of the things I love, you know, you mentioned Kermit was, 138 00:08:45,197 --> 00:08:47,697 was the different people that have come through the band. 139 00:08:47,797 --> 00:08:51,157 And one of them is what your former, 140 00:08:52,109 --> 00:08:58,729 Your former trombone, no, trombone player, Glenn, Glenn David Andrews, right? 141 00:08:58,809 --> 00:09:01,109 Am I saying that, his name right? Yeah. Right. 142 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:08,749 Or no, was it, he is now, he's cousins with Glenn, who is now your trumpet player. 143 00:09:09,169 --> 00:09:13,549 Right. Glenn David Andrews and Clint, Glenn Hall are actually cousins. 144 00:09:14,089 --> 00:09:17,349 Got to keep track of all the Glenns. There are a lot of Glenns in New Orleans 145 00:09:17,349 --> 00:09:20,409 and a lot of family people who've come in and out of the band. 146 00:09:20,529 --> 00:09:21,769 So it's kind of hard to keep track. 147 00:09:22,109 --> 00:09:24,589 Apu Su and when they played it, all that kind of stuff. 148 00:09:25,229 --> 00:09:30,629 Yeah, it's hard for me to keep track, even with my notes. And they're also cousins, 149 00:09:30,789 --> 00:09:35,069 is this right, with Trombone Shorty, who also was in Rebirth at some point. 150 00:09:35,569 --> 00:09:39,889 Right, Trombone Shorty, he wasn't actually in the band, but one of the shows 151 00:09:39,889 --> 00:09:44,349 that he played at was this, my brother just hired him to play a show that's out of San Francisco. 152 00:09:44,889 --> 00:09:50,109 He was kind of discovered by the Rosebud agency because he was actually playing on stage with us. 153 00:09:50,109 --> 00:09:52,989 We needed somebody to play trombone he said hey man i'll call trombone shorty like 154 00:09:52,989 --> 00:09:55,729 you want to make a gig like yeah why not he came up with a gig 155 00:09:55,729 --> 00:09:58,609 yeah that's one of the beautiful things about 156 00:09:58,609 --> 00:10:01,869 about new orleans jazz right is that people can just kind of hop 157 00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:04,989 in and hop out and jam with you guys yeah exactly 158 00:10:04,989 --> 00:10:08,069 and then i read that your brother 159 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:10,929 phil at one point was stepfather to soldier 160 00:10:10,929 --> 00:10:13,709 slim is that true too right my brother phil 161 00:10:13,709 --> 00:10:17,109 was step was was soldier slim 162 00:10:17,109 --> 00:10:19,989 stepfather yeah exactly rest in peace rest 163 00:10:19,989 --> 00:10:23,149 in peace soldier slim and uh i you 164 00:10:23,149 --> 00:10:25,909 know i know towards the the later part of his career he 165 00:10:25,909 --> 00:10:28,769 was signed with no limit and man i was such a no limit 166 00:10:28,769 --> 00:10:31,669 soldier when i was a teenager okay i 167 00:10:31,669 --> 00:10:34,929 like i would tear the the the source ads out 168 00:10:34,929 --> 00:10:39,209 of the source magazine and like pin them up on my walls and did you ever have 169 00:10:39,209 --> 00:10:43,229 any like connections with with master p being such like a big part of new orleans 170 00:10:43,229 --> 00:10:47,929 music like like i know it's a different genre we had a connection with him because 171 00:10:47,929 --> 00:10:53,289 Master P's family was living in a housing project called the Magnolia Housing Project. 172 00:10:53,809 --> 00:10:57,109 And they would get us to complete parties on the weekend. And we knew one of 173 00:10:57,109 --> 00:11:01,169 his brothers really well. One of his brothers who unfortunately was shot and killed. 174 00:11:01,449 --> 00:11:05,169 We knew him really well. He would hire us all the time to complete parties in the housing project. 175 00:11:05,729 --> 00:11:07,989 And we didn't know if Master P was his brother. He's like, yeah, 176 00:11:08,009 --> 00:11:12,029 you know, Percy Miller's my brother. We was like, what? He was like, yeah. Was that Kevin? 177 00:11:13,249 --> 00:11:17,289 No, Master P has a brother named Randall. I think he was a little older than 178 00:11:17,289 --> 00:11:18,929 Master P and he would hire us all the time, 179 00:11:19,764 --> 00:11:23,084 That's to play parties. Yeah. Kind of strange. 180 00:11:23,764 --> 00:11:27,004 That's cool. That's that's yeah. That's there's so many different connections 181 00:11:27,004 --> 00:11:30,064 with, with, with bands and family. And, and I, and I love that. 182 00:11:31,164 --> 00:11:35,904 Are you are so like, and you also had another guy in your band who I also love his stuff. 183 00:11:36,024 --> 00:11:42,004 And it's Shamar Allen who was, was he, and he was part of rebirth or was it kind of a similar thing? 184 00:11:42,144 --> 00:11:46,244 No, Shamar was in the band. He was actually in the band for like four or five years. 185 00:11:46,244 --> 00:11:49,524 He branched off and started doing his own solo thing 186 00:11:49,524 --> 00:11:52,244 and we've had a lot of different people come to the band 187 00:11:52,244 --> 00:11:55,024 in 40 years yeah i mean i 188 00:11:55,024 --> 00:11:57,684 would imagine that amount of time you would have a lot of 189 00:11:57,684 --> 00:12:00,764 different people right um yeah i 190 00:12:00,764 --> 00:12:04,384 i we we talked to eric who is now playing 191 00:12:04,384 --> 00:12:07,244 trumpet right with you guys and we had 192 00:12:07,244 --> 00:12:09,984 him on the show last week and i was 193 00:12:09,984 --> 00:12:12,904 hyping up how much i love to hit the sean on Peyton that 194 00:12:12,904 --> 00:12:15,784 Shamar did that song for the Saints so good 195 00:12:15,784 --> 00:12:18,564 so good yes yeah so are you are 196 00:12:18,564 --> 00:12:21,464 you like are you bummed out or does it when it 197 00:12:21,464 --> 00:12:24,164 when guys like that leave the band and they're successful are you like hey 198 00:12:24,164 --> 00:12:28,024 we want you here in Rebirth like we don't want you going out like we want you 199 00:12:28,024 --> 00:12:33,004 no not not at all I'm always advocating and promoting that guys you know do 200 00:12:33,004 --> 00:12:37,064 your own thing you know try try your hand at it for yourself if I could help 201 00:12:37,064 --> 00:12:41,044 you for your career I'll do as much as I possibly we can because it's a good 202 00:12:41,044 --> 00:12:43,504 look for the band like oh yeah i was one time i was playing a revert 203 00:12:43,904 --> 00:12:47,804 they're like what like yeah so it's not a bad thing i think it's actually a good thing, 204 00:12:48,324 --> 00:12:52,824 because he went on to play with um with the willie nelson band right right some more did it did a. 205 00:12:53,484 --> 00:12:58,024 Two-year thing with willie nelson that's some other people so that's cool you 206 00:12:58,024 --> 00:13:00,844 know a lot of guys have left our band they've done some really big things so, 207 00:13:01,404 --> 00:13:05,644 now they always tell me like yeah i was playing a reaver at one time like what i get it. 208 00:13:06,387 --> 00:13:09,607 So do you like you kind of being like, you know, one of the OGs of the band, 209 00:13:09,687 --> 00:13:13,687 do you help coach them like, like how to do things or do you just kind of let people figure it out? 210 00:13:14,307 --> 00:13:17,767 I kind of lead by example. But if they ask me, I'll tell them like, 211 00:13:17,827 --> 00:13:19,867 hey, listen, man, if you're trying to make a million dollars, 212 00:13:19,927 --> 00:13:21,547 you better try to make five, try to make five. 213 00:13:21,807 --> 00:13:24,567 Because it's going to take you four millions to make that one, 214 00:13:24,607 --> 00:13:25,787 to get down to that one million. 215 00:13:26,147 --> 00:13:28,727 I was telling them it's a lot of work. You know, I'm gonna make it look easy. 216 00:13:29,107 --> 00:13:32,147 Yeah, I was giving, you know, tidbits here and there, giving them advice. 217 00:13:32,287 --> 00:13:34,687 I'm like, look, don't drive in a car with me for three hours. 218 00:13:34,727 --> 00:13:35,527 Don't ask me any questions. 219 00:13:35,527 --> 00:13:38,487 You know because experience is our greatest teacher 220 00:13:38,487 --> 00:13:42,027 and i may actually know something that you don't know so 221 00:13:42,027 --> 00:13:44,747 and we'll just kick it around and they always come back 222 00:13:44,747 --> 00:13:47,507 and say hey man you know what what are you talking about like yeah that's what 223 00:13:47,507 --> 00:13:53,787 i was talking about okay no advice no advice like the advice from the guy who's 224 00:13:53,787 --> 00:13:58,907 actually been through it for 40 years all right so do you so you're in texas 225 00:13:58,907 --> 00:14:03,267 do you do you play with the band still much or are you just kind of more on 226 00:14:03,267 --> 00:14:05,287 the back and behind the scenes now? 227 00:14:05,507 --> 00:14:07,967 Playing with the band all the time. I'm not there every Tuesday night. 228 00:14:08,127 --> 00:14:11,067 You know, there's a new place that we're playing called Rabbit Hole because 229 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:13,887 we're no longer playing at Maple Leaf. We played at Maple Leaf for almost 30 years. 230 00:14:14,247 --> 00:14:17,187 And after COVID kicked in, they decided that they wanted to do something different. 231 00:14:17,347 --> 00:14:18,327 We're like, okay, no problem. 232 00:14:18,667 --> 00:14:23,067 And so we just moved our business over to another location. But I'm not there every Tuesday. 233 00:14:23,387 --> 00:14:29,327 I might make one Tuesday out of a month, but when a band is on the road, I'm there. Mm-hmm. 234 00:14:30,167 --> 00:14:34,867 Yeah, there's a real... fun quote from Obama that, you know, 235 00:14:34,867 --> 00:14:38,507 he said at the end of his presidency when he was speaking in New Orleans that 236 00:14:38,507 --> 00:14:43,467 he may finally get to catch Rebirth at the Maple Leaf on a Tuesday. Yeah. 237 00:14:44,007 --> 00:14:46,567 What an honor that is. He's just going to have to come to the rabbit hole, 238 00:14:46,647 --> 00:14:49,147 you know, as he is. But yeah, I was honored for him to say that. 239 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:53,587 When he said it, everyone was calling like, hey man, President Obama mentioned 240 00:14:53,587 --> 00:14:55,167 you guys' name. I'm like, well, he should. 241 00:14:55,287 --> 00:14:57,847 We're the Rebirth. Why Why wouldn't he? Yeah. 242 00:15:00,247 --> 00:15:04,427 But he never reached out to you? You never got to meet him or anything? 243 00:15:05,415 --> 00:15:08,835 Well, actually, we ended up playing at the White House. So we actually met him, 244 00:15:08,835 --> 00:15:10,315 him and his wife, Michelle. 245 00:15:11,115 --> 00:15:14,015 And I always tell the story, and people are like, what? I said, 246 00:15:14,055 --> 00:15:17,715 we met, meeting President Obama was great, but meeting Michelle Obama was better. 247 00:15:18,455 --> 00:15:21,515 Michelle Obama was so beautiful, she hurt your eyes. Yeah. 248 00:15:22,295 --> 00:15:25,695 She was so, not only was she beautiful, you know, outwardly, 249 00:15:25,695 --> 00:15:27,355 her personality, the way she is. 250 00:15:27,615 --> 00:15:31,855 She said, before I leave out the room, we're playing for the jazz thing that 251 00:15:31,855 --> 00:15:34,495 they do at the White House. She said, I'm going to shake everyone's hand. It was like, Ms. 252 00:15:35,335 --> 00:15:38,075 Sabama, we need deliciousness. And I'm not leaving until I shook everyone's 253 00:15:38,075 --> 00:15:41,275 hand. She shook everybody's hand. She had a brief conversation with her. 254 00:15:41,355 --> 00:15:43,015 She was so nice. It was unbelievable. 255 00:15:44,015 --> 00:15:48,035 Wow. That's cool. It's really amazing when you're in the presence of someone 256 00:15:48,035 --> 00:15:50,835 who has that kind of persona about them. 257 00:15:51,555 --> 00:15:54,615 Especially someone in such a place, you know. 258 00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:58,235 Such a high up. That high up. Yeah, yeah, for real. I was surprised they even 259 00:15:58,235 --> 00:16:01,075 invited us to that. Like, you want to invite Rebirth to the White House? 260 00:16:01,575 --> 00:16:03,535 Yeah. I'm like, wow. Oh, my goodness. 261 00:16:04,095 --> 00:16:07,215 So it was an honor for us to actually play the white house for 262 00:16:07,215 --> 00:16:09,755 sitting president like okay so that's one of the 263 00:16:09,755 --> 00:16:12,575 biggest things we've ever done in our career was played for president 264 00:16:12,575 --> 00:16:15,435 at the white house like how high can you 265 00:16:15,435 --> 00:16:19,175 get yeah that's i mean so are you nervous for a gig like that or is it just 266 00:16:19,175 --> 00:16:23,475 like are you just business as usual at this point for the most part it was business 267 00:16:23,475 --> 00:16:27,075 as usual until the president walked into the room we walked in the room you 268 00:16:27,075 --> 00:16:31,675 like whoa you know because you never think you'll meet a president the president 269 00:16:31,675 --> 00:16:33,515 of the united states like really Really? 270 00:16:34,135 --> 00:16:38,355 Yeah. And when they walked in, you try to make sure that you dot your I's and 271 00:16:38,355 --> 00:16:40,175 cross your T's and be correct. 272 00:16:41,075 --> 00:16:45,275 Yeah. Yeah. And do you guys get to do a tour of the White House and all that 273 00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:46,015 stuff while you're there? 274 00:16:46,735 --> 00:16:52,495 No, we didn't tour the White House, but we had a chance. The room that we were in, it's a funny story. 275 00:16:52,995 --> 00:16:56,575 I forget exactly what rock artist it was, but there's some food out for them, right? 276 00:16:56,775 --> 00:16:58,915 And we walk in there, we eat the food, and the guy comes and says, 277 00:16:59,015 --> 00:17:01,775 hey, don't worry about it, man. It's the White House. There's plenty more where 278 00:17:01,775 --> 00:17:03,135 they came from. Oh, yeah. 279 00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:09,495 I mean, all the big names in rock and roll, jazz, they were there. Elgin Rule. 280 00:17:10,115 --> 00:17:13,035 Anybody to think of was at that particular jazz function. 281 00:17:13,535 --> 00:17:17,295 I was like, Aretha Franklin was there. She performed right before we went on. 282 00:17:17,715 --> 00:17:21,555 I was like, wow, man, this is really a great honor right here. 283 00:17:22,135 --> 00:17:26,255 Yeah. Wow. I mean, you guys are part of that honor. 284 00:17:26,415 --> 00:17:31,375 I mean, you know, like, I mean, you know, for Obama to mention you, 285 00:17:31,455 --> 00:17:32,675 I mean, you know, already. 286 00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:36,627 And Tuesdays usually suck, right? Like, Tuesdays are usually, 287 00:17:36,707 --> 00:17:41,087 like, it's, you already went through Monday. Mondays suck. Wednesdays, 288 00:17:41,127 --> 00:17:41,747 not even. Then you go to Tuesday. 289 00:17:42,727 --> 00:17:45,047 Tuesdays is just whatever day. It's, like, not even Wednesday. 290 00:17:45,207 --> 00:17:46,067 It's not even hump day yet. 291 00:17:46,327 --> 00:17:50,687 So you guys made Tuesday, like, a day, right? 292 00:17:50,747 --> 00:17:54,287 We made Tuesday a day. And the way we got that particular gig at the Maple Leaf, 293 00:17:54,387 --> 00:17:59,467 one of our former manager's agent, he said, hey, man, the guy who was playing 294 00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:03,967 before us was not James Black, was another great New Orleans musician. He had passed away. 295 00:18:04,407 --> 00:18:06,147 They said they're looking for someone on Tuesday. So he said, 296 00:18:06,227 --> 00:18:10,407 would you guys consider doing a gig? I'm like, yeah, why not? So we went in there. 297 00:18:10,947 --> 00:18:13,167 And I mean, you could throw a brick in there and I'd hit anything. 298 00:18:13,307 --> 00:18:17,547 It was empty. We probably made $20, not $20 per person, $20. 299 00:18:18,407 --> 00:18:21,567 And so the fellow looked at me and said, hey, man, you know what? 300 00:18:21,607 --> 00:18:24,927 What I think we should do is let's just stay with it. We have nothing else to do on Tuesdays. 301 00:18:25,307 --> 00:18:30,067 And 30 years later, it was probably one of our biggest standing gigs in the 302 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:31,807 city of New Orleans to just play Tuesday nights. 303 00:18:32,407 --> 00:18:38,007 Just a packed house every tuesday every tuesday okay and so yeah i guess you 304 00:18:38,007 --> 00:18:40,927 know covid changed a lot of things and so that's kind of what prompted you guys 305 00:18:40,927 --> 00:18:42,207 to end up going to rabbit hole, 306 00:18:42,687 --> 00:18:45,407 yeah so covid kind of changed that and the guy the new guy 307 00:18:45,407 --> 00:18:48,247 came in he wanted to he wanted to change the deal you know 308 00:18:48,247 --> 00:18:52,447 we understood everyone's losing money he's like we're losing money you're like 309 00:18:52,447 --> 00:18:55,487 well we can't lose money too we've been losing money too so he said i need a 310 00:18:55,487 --> 00:18:59,707 cheaper band that wasn't us so like well it's not us so we kind of moved on 311 00:18:59,707 --> 00:19:05,827 yeah and so the rabbit hole is that like a is that more of a newer establishment 312 00:19:05,827 --> 00:19:07,747 like do you know much about the history i don't, 313 00:19:08,467 --> 00:19:12,307 It's a newer establishment. The guy who runs the place, he's been working with 314 00:19:12,307 --> 00:19:14,347 brand spams around the city of New Orleans for years. 315 00:19:14,727 --> 00:19:17,247 He saw opportunity like, hey, man, I know you guys in Maple Leaf. 316 00:19:17,407 --> 00:19:18,367 Why don't you come over here? 317 00:19:18,487 --> 00:19:22,447 He made us a really good offer that nobody was making at the time because all 318 00:19:22,447 --> 00:19:23,427 venues was losing money. 319 00:19:23,847 --> 00:19:26,687 It was kind of a no brain. He's like, let's just see what happens. 320 00:19:26,747 --> 00:19:31,127 Try it for a year. After one year, it got better. And right now it's really picking up. 321 00:19:31,427 --> 00:19:34,647 I mean, the way it's set up, it's not just about re-brand on tools. 322 00:19:34,647 --> 00:19:38,267 There's like a marketplace where they sell clothing and different types of goods. 323 00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,027 Here's a DJ before we play. 324 00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:44,727 Here's an outside patio that's really nice. It's really cool. 325 00:19:45,167 --> 00:19:47,047 So I'm like, yeah, I think that's the way to go. 326 00:19:47,847 --> 00:19:54,847 And I've seen you guys a couple of times there, and it gets funky and swinging and rocking. 327 00:19:55,007 --> 00:19:59,647 Like it gets packed and it gets hot and sweaty. and yeah they have this huge 328 00:19:59,647 --> 00:20:02,447 outdoor area out back where you can go and just kind of, 329 00:20:03,047 --> 00:20:05,927 they'll have little nooks and spots where you can chill and it's a real fun 330 00:20:05,927 --> 00:20:10,507 real fun spot it's fun spot so it's something new and you know i'm always looking 331 00:20:10,507 --> 00:20:14,087 forward to playing it because it's just a new vibe and kind of gives you some 332 00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:16,527 creativity based on the newness of the place, 333 00:20:18,127 --> 00:20:20,927 yeah ain't no party like a rebirth party right is that 334 00:20:20,927 --> 00:20:23,987 is that kind of like a rebirth party is that you 335 00:20:23,987 --> 00:20:29,327 guys playing on Tuesdays is that at the Maple Leaf at a packed house is that 336 00:20:29,327 --> 00:20:34,087 kind of where the origin of that song comes from for you guys pretty much you 337 00:20:34,087 --> 00:20:37,947 know because those Tuesdays were legendary I mean a lot of things that happened 338 00:20:37,947 --> 00:20:42,007 outside of just playing we actually recorded an album at the Maple Leaf, 339 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:46,415 All kinds of stuff happened from A to Z. Some things you can't talk about. 340 00:20:46,895 --> 00:20:50,375 Some things you can't talk about. You're like, wow, did that really happen? Like, yeah. 341 00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:52,935 It's just legendary. Man. 342 00:20:53,775 --> 00:20:56,315 What about the... Okay, so let me ask you now a couple other songs. 343 00:20:56,615 --> 00:21:01,155 One of my favorite songs that y'all play is AP Turo. 344 00:21:02,155 --> 00:21:05,555 AP Turo, yeah. What's the story behind that song? 345 00:21:06,275 --> 00:21:09,555 Well, actually, that wasn't one of our songs. We kind of borrowed that song 346 00:21:09,555 --> 00:21:12,615 from the Newbird Brass Band, and a band that my younger brother, 347 00:21:12,735 --> 00:21:17,075 Kerwin James, who's now deceased, they were playing a song. We heard it. 348 00:21:17,455 --> 00:21:20,095 And we always said, man, amateur's imitates but professional still. 349 00:21:20,335 --> 00:21:21,835 We heard it like, that's a great song. 350 00:21:22,335 --> 00:21:26,555 It was an actual song that my brother, Kerwin James, and Trommel Shorty worked together on. 351 00:21:27,135 --> 00:21:30,055 And he said, hey, man, we got this good song. We listened to it a couple of times. 352 00:21:30,595 --> 00:21:32,975 And after we listened to it a few times, we said, you know what? 353 00:21:33,015 --> 00:21:33,995 That's a really good song. Let's 354 00:21:33,995 --> 00:21:37,515 try that. And we kind of put our twist on it. And it kind of took off. 355 00:21:38,015 --> 00:21:41,055 And people would always say, man, it played me too rude. and people don't even 356 00:21:41,055 --> 00:21:43,455 know that hey that's not our song they're like what like no not at all. 357 00:21:44,355 --> 00:21:47,315 Yeah i didn't know i didn't even know speaking of songs 358 00:21:47,315 --> 00:21:51,835 and uncle dad had to school me on this one i didn't even realize casanova wasn't 359 00:21:51,835 --> 00:21:57,035 your son right that's another one people think casanova is our song and so i 360 00:21:57,035 --> 00:22:00,355 have to tell people listen no that's gerald overt and a group called overt you're 361 00:22:00,355 --> 00:22:03,975 like what i said we borrowed that and it just so happened we were playing this 362 00:22:03,975 --> 00:22:05,015 one spot on Thursday night, 363 00:22:05,135 --> 00:22:08,835 and the guys came up with these lyrics that are very provocative, 364 00:22:09,055 --> 00:22:10,435 and, 365 00:22:10,935 --> 00:22:12,835 we started playing it, and it kind of stuck. 366 00:22:13,095 --> 00:22:16,315 We played it so much, people were like, put that reverb cast in there, 367 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,315 we're like, it's not our song. 368 00:22:18,015 --> 00:22:21,255 We don't want to take it. And we did it so well that the guys from LaVert, 369 00:22:21,355 --> 00:22:23,515 they was like, y'all did it so well, man. 370 00:22:24,195 --> 00:22:26,695 We just have to give y'all credit for doing a great job with it. 371 00:22:26,775 --> 00:22:28,735 I'm like, wow, cool. That's your song now. 372 00:22:29,595 --> 00:22:31,415 Exactly. Like, it's your song now. I'm like, okay. 373 00:22:32,665 --> 00:22:35,765 But yeah, it's a scary song. Right, Uncle Dad, you like that song, yeah. 374 00:22:36,445 --> 00:22:39,805 Yeah, so I'm a huge R&B guy, and I love Levert. 375 00:22:40,365 --> 00:22:44,565 Levert, in my opinion, was one of the greatest R&B bands ever. Yeah, definitely. 376 00:22:45,005 --> 00:22:48,605 And that song, when I had heard that song, because the first time I got to see 377 00:22:48,605 --> 00:22:52,345 you guys live was probably a couple of years ago with Mike, and that song came on. 378 00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:56,925 And in my mind, I'm like, whoa, this is awesome. This is a take on Levert. 379 00:22:57,065 --> 00:23:00,765 And he goes, what? What do you mean, Levert? I was like, yeah, this is Levert. 380 00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:06,185 That's Levert, yeah. definitely yeah yeah so well you guys that's that version 381 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:09,865 in my opinion it's it's even though i love the original i mean who doesn't right 382 00:23:09,865 --> 00:23:15,505 but the your version is just a lot of fun you know it's kind of the epitome 383 00:23:15,505 --> 00:23:20,505 of new orleans yeah it's kind of fun take your drawers off have a good time. 384 00:23:23,405 --> 00:23:29,525 Yeah i i that happens there yeah exactly especially doing monogram a lot of 385 00:23:29,525 --> 00:23:36,885 drawers yeah what about uh speaking of that like so do what you wanna i feel 386 00:23:36,885 --> 00:23:40,725 like is kind of like a an adopted phrase of new orleans at this point right 387 00:23:40,725 --> 00:23:42,405 like how does that song come to be, 388 00:23:42,965 --> 00:23:48,265 well do what you want to kermit came up with this song a piece of song he's 389 00:23:48,265 --> 00:23:51,685 like hey man let's try this right here my brother philip chimed in with the 390 00:23:51,685 --> 00:23:55,365 bass line part and this guy by the name of reginald stewart they were playing 391 00:23:55,365 --> 00:23:58,805 at this family that we would always go over to the house and kind to practice. 392 00:23:59,045 --> 00:24:00,145 And he got into an argument. 393 00:24:00,625 --> 00:24:03,625 I was saxophone player at the time. So he came up with this horn part. 394 00:24:04,405 --> 00:24:08,665 And it kind of stuck. And as we continued to put it together, 395 00:24:08,845 --> 00:24:11,165 everything just kind of came together. It's like a gumbo. 396 00:24:11,745 --> 00:24:14,365 Everyone started throwing bits and pieces into the pot. 397 00:24:14,985 --> 00:24:17,885 10 years later, it was a full-blown song. 398 00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:23,685 And it just kind of took off. This guy, the radio guy, who was working at an R&B station, 399 00:24:23,945 --> 00:24:26,665 he would play it at the end of the night or the beginning 400 00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:29,385 of of the night and he would put the do what you want up 401 00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:32,305 against other r&b songs and hip-hop songs and we 402 00:24:32,305 --> 00:24:35,065 would win the contest every week he like this week it's gonna 403 00:24:35,065 --> 00:24:38,105 be uh reverse do what you want against the latest hip-hop song 404 00:24:38,105 --> 00:24:40,865 and we would win every week and it kind of blew up 405 00:24:40,865 --> 00:24:43,845 and people like man do what you want do what you want and it 406 00:24:43,845 --> 00:24:46,545 kind of kind of tipped in hip-hop clubs in new 407 00:24:46,545 --> 00:24:49,965 orleans and people just always request that 408 00:24:49,965 --> 00:24:52,645 song and just grew a life of his own 409 00:24:52,645 --> 00:24:55,565 yeah well that that riff that it starts off 410 00:24:55,565 --> 00:25:00,205 with like to me that's just it it's like the epitome of new orleans like that 411 00:25:00,205 --> 00:25:04,925 that sound you know yeah you know and and also that's kind of what you do when 412 00:25:04,925 --> 00:25:09,265 you're in new orleans is right what you want yeah do what you want and then 413 00:25:09,265 --> 00:25:13,885 i'm going to get more to this in a little bit but they even use that phrase 414 00:25:13,885 --> 00:25:15,525 in the in the show treme which. 415 00:25:17,173 --> 00:25:20,893 I love that show, and I know you guys were a part of it. But also, 416 00:25:21,733 --> 00:25:26,613 we've been talking about Phil, and I got to meet him at a show that you guys 417 00:25:26,613 --> 00:25:28,453 were doing in Oakland. Yeah. 418 00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:32,473 So he had a stroke and couldn't play with the band. 419 00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:38,313 So how difficult was that for you, being his brother, and you guys created this? 420 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:42,533 It was extremely difficult. Because actually, Phil was kind of like the heart 421 00:25:42,533 --> 00:25:45,213 of the band. When people think of Rebirth, they think of my brother Phil. 422 00:25:45,673 --> 00:25:48,093 I would tell people, like, they're not thinking about me. They don't even see 423 00:25:48,093 --> 00:25:51,493 me half the time. So I'm like, what? Shorty's not here. F it, 424 00:25:51,573 --> 00:25:52,653 move on. Let's go, whatever. 425 00:25:53,653 --> 00:25:58,493 But he's actually on one of the Jazz Fest posters because he pretty much started the band. 426 00:25:59,213 --> 00:26:02,373 And he picked all the guys in the beginning who he wanted to be in the band. 427 00:26:03,013 --> 00:26:05,873 And when he had a stroke, he was like, man, what's going to happen? 428 00:26:05,953 --> 00:26:08,033 I'm like, I don't know. Are we going to carry on or what? 429 00:26:08,553 --> 00:26:11,793 He was like, hey, man, I'm not here. Just carry on. Do what you got to do. 430 00:26:11,793 --> 00:26:17,133 But you know he'll come out every now and then support the band, 431 00:26:17,773 --> 00:26:22,093 give us two cents on what's going on but he kind of stand on the side like no 432 00:26:22,093 --> 00:26:24,753 actually it's a different band it's a new day, 433 00:26:25,233 --> 00:26:27,953 I'm gonna stick with other guys there that was a 434 00:26:27,953 --> 00:26:30,893 big blow for us but we kind of carried on and there we 435 00:26:30,893 --> 00:26:33,813 are yeah and does he help like pick or 436 00:26:33,813 --> 00:26:36,773 find the next guy to play because he played the tuba 437 00:26:36,773 --> 00:26:40,013 he actually picks all the guys he picks 438 00:26:40,013 --> 00:26:42,893 them all you know yeah every i'll tell 439 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,773 people like it's not me i'm like there's nothing wrong with his ear so he 440 00:26:45,773 --> 00:26:48,553 could hear like i think this guy would be a good guy to put in 441 00:26:48,553 --> 00:26:51,293 a band i'm like okay you think so and i just kind 442 00:26:51,293 --> 00:26:53,993 of stand on the side like that's the guy you want because the guy 443 00:26:53,993 --> 00:26:57,233 it is and so we just do it that way yeah i 444 00:26:57,233 --> 00:27:00,293 mean that's great that he still has such a you know a prominent role 445 00:27:00,293 --> 00:27:03,553 you know going through going through a stroke because some people right you 446 00:27:03,553 --> 00:27:06,053 know they go through a stroke and that's it like they're not they're not doing 447 00:27:06,053 --> 00:27:10,353 anything yeah you know he had the stroke then he had COVID and I'm like man 448 00:27:10,353 --> 00:27:14,193 you walking through this stuff like it ain't nothing you know if I have a stroke 449 00:27:14,193 --> 00:27:17,773 and I have COVID that's going to be it for me like I ain't doing nothing we're 450 00:27:17,773 --> 00:27:18,833 trying to get ourselves together. 451 00:27:19,766 --> 00:27:23,926 Yeah. Well, I mean, good, good for him that he's, he's, uh, he's still part 452 00:27:23,926 --> 00:27:26,366 of it, man. And, uh, yeah, I got to meet him. Super nice guy. 453 00:27:26,706 --> 00:27:33,126 And, uh, yeah. So, okay. So, so, so, you know, you mentioned jazz fest poster. 454 00:27:33,186 --> 00:27:34,566 So you guys play at jazz fest. 455 00:27:35,046 --> 00:27:38,546 You're kind of like regular mainstays there now, right? It's kind of like, 456 00:27:38,566 --> 00:27:40,526 you know, we play every year. 457 00:27:40,546 --> 00:27:45,446 This year we played April 28th at the Congo square stage, probably at three 458 00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:47,446 o'clock, three or four o'clock, something like that. 459 00:27:47,446 --> 00:27:50,366 So we play every year you know and you play 460 00:27:50,366 --> 00:27:53,126 in that when you guys play i'll be there for that yeah 461 00:27:53,126 --> 00:27:55,966 definitely and so what's that 462 00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:59,446 like you know you're playing you know jazz fest is one of the biggest music festivals 463 00:27:59,446 --> 00:28:02,506 in in the u.s you know and 464 00:28:02,506 --> 00:28:05,786 what's it like playing it on such a high level event with 465 00:28:05,786 --> 00:28:08,786 such you know such a crowd you know in in new 466 00:28:08,786 --> 00:28:12,026 orleans like what's that feeling like for you uh when we 467 00:28:12,026 --> 00:28:15,226 play jazz fest it's a lot of energy like you know 468 00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:17,986 when we're playing people already already know what it's about you know it's 469 00:28:17,986 --> 00:28:20,666 we play you dance you have a good time there's no 470 00:28:20,666 --> 00:28:23,886 pretense anything like that like we're trying to fool somebody or 471 00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:26,506 something like that like no man y'all already know what 472 00:28:26,506 --> 00:28:30,086 it's gonna be a for hour and a half or whatever the time frame is it's about 473 00:28:30,086 --> 00:28:34,586 having a good time everyone's partying and we might try some new songs but for 474 00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:38,106 the most part people come there like casting over feel like phoning it up do 475 00:28:38,106 --> 00:28:41,406 what you want yeah that's what they want to at some point we give it to them 476 00:28:41,406 --> 00:28:44,946 but it's a lot of fun hey what what's it like Like, 477 00:28:44,946 --> 00:28:47,526 you know, when you guys, I know a lot of, sometimes when you're on stage, 478 00:28:47,666 --> 00:28:50,566 there's just, there's a lot of, correct me if I'm wrong, right? 479 00:28:50,626 --> 00:28:53,386 Is there a lot of improv going on in between the gyms? 480 00:28:53,406 --> 00:28:57,546 Because you guys, pretty much once you start, you don't really stop until the 481 00:28:57,546 --> 00:29:00,246 end of the show. Like you just keep, like one song leads into the next. 482 00:29:01,146 --> 00:29:05,086 There's a lot of improv. A lot of times there's a lot of mistakes that we improvise on top of. 483 00:29:05,666 --> 00:29:10,066 There's no set. And that's what, it's easy, but it's also hard because when 484 00:29:10,066 --> 00:29:13,226 it's time to record, because we're improv-ing so much, we may have forgotten 485 00:29:13,226 --> 00:29:16,006 what we did a month ago. At that point, it's something brand new. 486 00:29:16,426 --> 00:29:21,146 And so people are like, can we capture that on CD? We don't really know. 487 00:29:21,626 --> 00:29:24,526 We're going to see what happens when we get in the studio. It all depends on 488 00:29:24,526 --> 00:29:27,226 what the spirit is like when you're in the recording studio. 489 00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:29,086 So there's a lot of improv all the time. 490 00:29:30,406 --> 00:29:35,566 There's no set part. The beauty of Rebirth is do what you want. 491 00:29:36,246 --> 00:29:39,006 It's always there when you're having a good time. Try to play the right notes, 492 00:29:39,046 --> 00:29:41,726 but for the most part, it's going to be improvised. 493 00:29:42,566 --> 00:29:47,546 It's fun to watch and Uncle Dad I don't know if you remember this but like sometimes 494 00:29:47,546 --> 00:29:52,186 you can if you pay attention to the to you guys actually playing you can see 495 00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,486 where someone might have messed up or someone's doing something, 496 00:29:55,451 --> 00:30:00,211 a little off and you guys are laughing at each other and you guys are having 497 00:30:00,211 --> 00:30:01,891 a, seem like you're having a blast up there. 498 00:30:02,511 --> 00:30:06,811 We're having a, we're having a party. It's a 90 minutes. 499 00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:09,351 I always say, man, if you're not having a good time, if people see that you're 500 00:30:09,351 --> 00:30:12,311 not having a good time, then I don't have a good time. So have a good time. 501 00:30:12,391 --> 00:30:13,651 There's no right way or wrong way. 502 00:30:13,771 --> 00:30:17,911 There's no music police that's going to arrest you at the end of the night. So have a good time. 503 00:30:18,591 --> 00:30:24,191 Yeah. We, uncle dad and I saw you guys, um, play it at tip to patinas. 504 00:30:24,471 --> 00:30:30,091 One time, And is that one of your favorite places to play? I would assume you love playing there. 505 00:30:30,691 --> 00:30:35,171 Tipitina's, Holland Wolf, House of Blues, almost any place that people will come and watch us. 506 00:30:35,511 --> 00:30:40,351 And if it's in somebody's bathroom, you know, I tell everybody, 507 00:30:40,491 --> 00:30:42,551 Rebirth is from the cradle to the grave and everything in between. 508 00:30:43,551 --> 00:30:47,431 If there's a room big enough for us to fit in, we're there. You'll do it. 509 00:30:47,491 --> 00:30:50,271 I want to go to that show, the bathroom show. Yeah. 510 00:30:52,131 --> 00:30:55,851 You've got to have great acoustics in the bathroom, right? Yeah. 511 00:30:55,991 --> 00:30:59,591 The smaller room is actually acoustics can get really good because everybody's 512 00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:02,231 so close to each other. You probably even have to mic it up. 513 00:31:02,251 --> 00:31:03,171 So it sounds really good. 514 00:31:03,651 --> 00:31:06,411 Yeah yeah so so you know those are all 515 00:31:06,411 --> 00:31:09,411 you know iconic new orleans venues you 516 00:31:09,411 --> 00:31:13,191 know especially for people from out of town so what what what 517 00:31:13,191 --> 00:31:16,651 made you you know i was always wondering like could you see yourself living 518 00:31:16,651 --> 00:31:20,291 in anywhere besides new orleans because you're you're like so much of what new 519 00:31:20,291 --> 00:31:24,431 orleans is and what what made you move to texas was it like a katrina thing 520 00:31:24,431 --> 00:31:25,851 where you moved away and just stayed 521 00:31:25,851 --> 00:31:29,851 or how that i ended up in texas after katrina you know i got here And, 522 00:31:29,851 --> 00:31:32,271 you know, at my age, I was like, you know what? 523 00:31:32,411 --> 00:31:34,051 I think I'm done with all the red tape 524 00:31:34,051 --> 00:31:37,071 and all the whatever's going on in Louisiana. It was just New Orleans. 525 00:31:37,231 --> 00:31:40,131 But, you know, Louisiana is backwards. 526 00:31:40,451 --> 00:31:42,711 You know, like, you know what? I can't take it anymore. I just need to get to 527 00:31:42,711 --> 00:31:43,991 the airport to make the gig. 528 00:31:44,291 --> 00:31:47,231 I still love it. But there's a lot of stuff that go on. You're like, 529 00:31:47,351 --> 00:31:50,051 man, if we could just fix this, if we could just fix the drainage system. 530 00:31:50,211 --> 00:31:51,291 How about the school system? 531 00:31:51,711 --> 00:31:53,791 And you look at it, you're like, I don't think it's ever going to get fixed. 532 00:31:53,951 --> 00:31:54,791 You have to make a decision. 533 00:31:54,911 --> 00:31:59,011 Like, okay, what should I do? At the time, my daughter was five years old when 534 00:31:59,011 --> 00:32:01,831 Katrina hit, and I had to decide, like, am I going to put her back in that system 535 00:32:01,831 --> 00:32:04,391 or let her stay here and be properly educated? 536 00:32:04,831 --> 00:32:08,011 And I chose to stay here and let her be properly educated. I just need to get 537 00:32:08,011 --> 00:32:09,531 to airporting. Here I am. 538 00:32:10,251 --> 00:32:13,151 Yeah. I mean, and your neighbors. It's not like you moved to far away. 539 00:32:13,571 --> 00:32:15,771 You're still really close. You're not in Sacramento. I can drive. 540 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:17,711 No, I'm not in Sacramento. 541 00:32:19,571 --> 00:32:23,591 No. The greatest thing is my wife is, though. Yeah. 542 00:32:25,691 --> 00:32:29,691 Yeah, so you can go there and catch a King's Pels game, right? 543 00:32:30,011 --> 00:32:34,131 Right, go catch a King's Pels game, or I could just go hang out by my mother-in-law 544 00:32:34,131 --> 00:32:36,831 or something like that. But yeah, I'm not a Sacramento. 545 00:32:37,531 --> 00:32:40,451 But you know what? I like Sacramento, though. There's something about it that 546 00:32:40,451 --> 00:32:41,631 I like. I don't know what it is. 547 00:32:42,531 --> 00:32:47,191 Yeah, me neither. Yeah, I lived there for many years, and I don't know what 548 00:32:47,191 --> 00:32:49,171 it is either. But there's something I like about it. 549 00:32:49,861 --> 00:32:55,081 Yeah, I'll go anytime if I get a chance to. Yeah, I mean, you can find something 550 00:32:55,081 --> 00:33:00,201 good about most places, right? Most places, yeah. You can find something good. 551 00:33:00,981 --> 00:33:02,781 Have you guys ever played in Stockton, California? 552 00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:09,181 We've never played in Stockton, California. I'm always wondering, what's in Stockton? 553 00:33:09,881 --> 00:33:13,601 I'm like, what's in Stockton? Uncle Dan will tell you. That's right. 554 00:33:13,681 --> 00:33:15,201 That's my neighborhood. Let me tell you. 555 00:33:15,901 --> 00:33:19,281 You're from Stockton. Yeah, yeah. I'll just tell you, man. 556 00:33:19,281 --> 00:33:23,621 It's a different beast out there well i 557 00:33:23,621 --> 00:33:26,381 plan to you know hopefully get down there one day check it 558 00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:29,381 out i'll pass through then as i pass through i'm like man 559 00:33:29,381 --> 00:33:36,941 what the hell is going on hey i ask myself that all the time i mean is there 560 00:33:36,941 --> 00:33:40,881 a major venue that people go to like it's been you right here i mean there's 561 00:33:40,881 --> 00:33:44,721 the stockton arena but like if you wanted to say like a like a legend oh i guess 562 00:33:44,721 --> 00:33:48,181 the bob hope theater yeah i would say that okay yeah okay Okay, 563 00:33:48,181 --> 00:33:49,081 that's a legendary theater, 564 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:52,141 I would say, that's been around since, you know. Is Bob Hope from Stockton? 565 00:33:52,681 --> 00:33:56,181 No. I don't even know why he's from Stockton. Unless you know why, 566 00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:59,701 Mike. I think he took a shit there once. What? I guess you got that idea. 567 00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:04,881 That would do it, huh? That's all you need in Stockton to get something named after you. 568 00:34:06,281 --> 00:34:10,261 Keith, you got to come do that, and then what will happen is we'll get you a Keith Frazier theater. 569 00:34:11,681 --> 00:34:15,881 Is there like a festival in Stockton that they do like music-wise or. 570 00:34:18,361 --> 00:34:23,301 There's the asparagus they moved it though they moved the asparagus festival out of there, 571 00:34:24,521 --> 00:34:30,021 the asparagus festival not anymore they had an asparagus festival that was their 572 00:34:30,021 --> 00:34:34,641 one thing and I went one time and it was terrifying and Stockton's terrifying, 573 00:34:35,461 --> 00:34:36,241 Stockton's terrifying? 574 00:34:36,501 --> 00:34:38,761 What do you mean? Do you mean in terms of crime or what? 575 00:34:39,141 --> 00:34:46,261 I would say crime people say that like it can't be worse than New Orleans We're the capital of crime. 576 00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:51,281 Sometimes, man. Sometimes it can be pretty bad. It can be worse than New Orleans? I would say so. 577 00:34:51,781 --> 00:34:54,741 I think the only reason it's not worse than New Orleans is because there's less 578 00:34:54,741 --> 00:34:58,201 criminals to do crime in Stockton because it's a smaller city. 579 00:34:59,241 --> 00:35:03,281 Okay. Well, I'm going to have to, because, you know, I like to travel. 580 00:35:03,361 --> 00:35:04,361 I'm always curious about places. 581 00:35:04,681 --> 00:35:08,781 I'm going to have to stop through just to check it out. What's going on here? 582 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:13,481 They do have a big Comic-Con that I do there. I sell stuff out there. 583 00:35:14,161 --> 00:35:19,321 Twice a year and they get a good turnout, but I hear from at least one or two 584 00:35:19,321 --> 00:35:22,781 vendors or artists or guests that get their car broken into. 585 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:29,550 Overnight while they're staying there. Yeah. Okay. So cheers to Stockton. 586 00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:35,490 Well, hold on. If you go to Stockton one day, you've got to do me a favor. You've got to go down. 587 00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:39,490 If you like Mexican food, and who doesn't, you've got to go to Arroyo's. 588 00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:45,110 Arroyo's. It's a really good Mexican restaurant. That place has been there since 589 00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:48,830 my dad was a child, and I've been going there since my, you know, 590 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:51,050 since I was a kid, since he was a kid. 591 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:54,950 It's a family thing. You should go there. is probably one of the most legacy 592 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:59,070 restaurants you're going to find in Stockton. If you ever go. 593 00:35:59,990 --> 00:36:05,150 I plan to go. I plan to go. Next trip to Stockton. 594 00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:13,830 Next trip to Stockton. Yeah, do a drive to Stockton and experience the life there. Okay. Yeah. 595 00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:20,690 So, okay. I want to talk a little bit about the show I mentioned earlier, 596 00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:23,950 Treme, which you guys are are 597 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:26,690 part of that you know so like i know you 598 00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:29,610 guys appear in some shows i know they talk to 599 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:32,750 you guys about like consulting the musicians or 600 00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:36,470 the people that were playing the musicians in the show like also got to be an 601 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:41,330 honor right yeah so so what what was that like they were like we want this to 602 00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:45,790 be as authentic as possible we want rebirth to be a part of it somehow so they 603 00:36:45,790 --> 00:36:50,050 reach out to you actually when he when he started putting the show together 604 00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:51,430 he had to create the poly. 605 00:36:51,950 --> 00:36:54,190 So they told us, hey, we want you guys to be a part of the poly. 606 00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:58,890 Like, okay. So we're thinking that means play a couple of tunes for the show 607 00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:01,070 while the show is coming on or something like that. 608 00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:04,030 We didn't know what they were talking about. So we get there, 609 00:37:04,050 --> 00:37:06,590 the guy said, no, we want you guys to be a part of the show. 610 00:37:06,830 --> 00:37:09,970 We was like, what you mean? He wants to play in the scene or something? 611 00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:11,650 He said, no, we want you to read parts. 612 00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:15,275 Now, we have never done any acting. The only acting we've done is trying to 613 00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:16,475 be musicians, to act like musicians. 614 00:37:18,015 --> 00:37:21,815 So they give us the lines, right? And I never knew how hard acting was until 615 00:37:21,815 --> 00:37:23,295 I actually got to read lines. 616 00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:26,255 Because not only do you have to know your lines, you have to know the person 617 00:37:26,255 --> 00:37:28,675 that you're talking to lines as well, so you can know when to come in. 618 00:37:29,175 --> 00:37:31,255 So I'm studying the lines, and this lady we're working with, 619 00:37:31,295 --> 00:37:33,295 she said, look, relax, just like music. 620 00:37:33,655 --> 00:37:35,755 Like you're a drummer, you have to know all the parts in a band. 621 00:37:35,915 --> 00:37:38,315 Now you have to know all the lines that everyone is saying. 622 00:37:39,135 --> 00:37:42,155 And it's just so happened they picked me. I'm like, they're not going to pick me? 623 00:37:42,155 --> 00:37:45,555 Like we want you to read i'm like oh my goodness so 624 00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:48,275 at that point i'm nervous i'm shaking like can i do 625 00:37:48,275 --> 00:37:52,055 this you say you can tell you can do it i know you got it in she gave me the 626 00:37:52,055 --> 00:37:56,035 lines i memorized my lines i memorized the guidelines that i'm talking to and 627 00:37:56,035 --> 00:38:00,615 they say one two three go so at that point she's saying well it's just a pilot 628 00:38:00,615 --> 00:38:04,715 no one will see it i'm okay if no one's gonna see me do this make a fool of 629 00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:07,815 myself so i'm not worried no one's gonna see this the day, 630 00:38:08,295 --> 00:38:14,295 Tremé comes on, I'm in the very first scene, the first words, that's me. 631 00:38:14,815 --> 00:38:18,375 My phone is blowing up. I'm like a movie star. I can't believe it. 632 00:38:18,575 --> 00:38:21,215 The first scene of the first episode? 633 00:38:21,755 --> 00:38:26,035 First scene of the first episode, I'm reading. I'm acting. Oh, 634 00:38:26,055 --> 00:38:27,075 we got to play a clip of that. 635 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:45,200 Music. 636 00:38:30,155 --> 00:38:34,895 What's up, bro? What's up? Look at the fuck show up. What's up? 637 00:38:35,475 --> 00:38:38,055 When was the last time you saw this motherfucker play a second line? 638 00:38:38,335 --> 00:38:40,095 First thing that goes, those legs, old man. 639 00:38:40,775 --> 00:38:44,075 He stole that from Tyrus. Man, Tyrus used to play that riff with that. 640 00:38:44,595 --> 00:38:48,415 Hey, girl, if you're referring to Mr. Chapman, the fact is he appropriated that 641 00:38:48,415 --> 00:38:51,295 particular musical ornamentation for my repertoire, bro. I can't breathe at all. 642 00:38:52,080 --> 00:39:44,400 Music. 643 00:39:45,224 --> 00:39:48,984 I was like, wow. She said, I didn't want to tell you what's going to be in the 644 00:39:48,984 --> 00:39:51,684 part of the show because it would have made you nervous. She said, 645 00:39:51,704 --> 00:39:52,624 you did a really good job. 646 00:39:53,144 --> 00:39:56,164 I could have been better. She said, you were great. You're not acting. You were great. 647 00:39:56,724 --> 00:39:59,204 So people saw it and they were calling me like, hey, man, you know you're on 648 00:39:59,204 --> 00:40:03,524 TV? I'm like, TV? What you mean? We playing somewhere? Like, no, you're in a movie. 649 00:40:04,284 --> 00:40:08,524 I couldn't believe it. And from that point on, I was like a movie star. 650 00:40:10,184 --> 00:40:16,384 I'm like, wow. Wow. Actor slash musician. Actor slash musician, yeah. Yes. 651 00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,824 And the funny thing is I have a sister. She's into theater and acting. 652 00:40:20,224 --> 00:40:25,124 She said, you mean to tell me you got a SAG card before me? I'm like, I'm an actor. Yeah. 653 00:40:26,924 --> 00:40:32,304 Did you get craft services while you were acting? Did they have craft services there for you? 654 00:40:33,324 --> 00:40:37,224 Yeah, they did. Yeah. Okay. And it was good. It's good, yeah. 655 00:40:37,224 --> 00:40:40,204 I was surprised by the whole experience. 656 00:40:41,224 --> 00:40:45,484 I did two or three different scenes reading and I was like, wow. 657 00:40:45,624 --> 00:40:50,204 Once you get used to it, it's a lot of fun because you can cut and go back and fix anything you want. 658 00:40:50,604 --> 00:40:53,904 If you forget something, they'll just splice it together. You can't even tell. 659 00:40:54,084 --> 00:40:58,484 Wow, you did a really good job. You're a professional in Hollywood. Yeah. 660 00:40:59,384 --> 00:41:04,024 What you're saying is you'll be appearing in another movie again soon so we 661 00:41:04,024 --> 00:41:08,144 can keep a watch for you. I had that feeling I'm going to be in another movie. 662 00:41:08,324 --> 00:41:10,264 I don't know if my wife is going to go for that. I'm like, a movie? 663 00:41:10,424 --> 00:41:11,324 I don't know about that, buddy. 664 00:41:11,964 --> 00:41:14,244 So, yeah. They might call me anytime. 665 00:41:15,024 --> 00:41:18,944 I always tell somebody when they do the biopic of Rebirth, I want Lorenz Tate 666 00:41:18,944 --> 00:41:22,084 to play my part. My sister's always laughing at that. Like, man, get out of here. 667 00:41:23,044 --> 00:41:26,184 Well, yeah. We haven't seen Lorenz Tate in something for a long time, 668 00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:30,064 right? Right. That would be a good movie. Like, the Rebirth movie? I mean... 669 00:41:31,146 --> 00:41:34,286 The characters and whatever will be changed to protect the industry. 670 00:41:35,866 --> 00:41:41,966 Yes. We're going to put a link to your IMDb in the show notes to this so people 671 00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:45,026 can follow you there. I think we should get Tyrese to play you. 672 00:41:45,886 --> 00:41:51,266 Tyrese? Yeah, you know what? Yeah, you know what? Yeah. I see some resemblance there. Tyrese, man. 673 00:41:51,646 --> 00:41:54,266 Yeah. I think he would do a good job. 674 00:41:54,946 --> 00:41:58,146 He's still acting. Yeah, he's still acting. 675 00:41:58,686 --> 00:42:02,226 Yeah yeah wow that's so funny yeah that's yeah 676 00:42:02,226 --> 00:42:05,486 and there was a huge there's a huge scene in uh i think 677 00:42:05,486 --> 00:42:09,326 it was season three right where they they 678 00:42:09,326 --> 00:42:13,946 reenact when some of you guys in the band got arrested for for playing a second 679 00:42:13,946 --> 00:42:17,966 line for someone who passed away and that's actually the person who passed that's 680 00:42:17,966 --> 00:42:21,806 that's my brother kerwin james that passed away and so when someone like a musician 681 00:42:21,806 --> 00:42:26,066 passed away we kind of parade around the neighborhood to pay you know tribute to that person. 682 00:42:26,446 --> 00:42:28,806 And Derek Tabb was the snare drum in our band at the time. 683 00:42:29,226 --> 00:42:34,386 As we were marching up to finish off the march, the police roll up and they arrest him. 684 00:42:34,486 --> 00:42:37,366 He was like, sure, they're going to arrest me. I'm like, you're getting arrested? 685 00:42:38,026 --> 00:42:40,766 You got arrested. That was the actual real story. 686 00:42:41,486 --> 00:42:43,446 He was like, man, I can't believe they arrested me. I'm like, 687 00:42:43,526 --> 00:42:46,626 I can't believe they arrested you either. And so they kind of put that in for me. 688 00:42:47,606 --> 00:42:49,886 And we was like, wow, they're going to put this in there? You know, 689 00:42:49,906 --> 00:42:53,546 they had to get the okay from my mom and everything, but it was a true story. 690 00:42:53,686 --> 00:42:58,506 They really arrested him for playing for your brother like yeah yeah it's just 691 00:42:58,506 --> 00:43:02,166 another reason why maybe you know hey i don't need to move back there you know 692 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,086 there's just exactly you know there's a lot of stuff that happens and. 693 00:43:06,586 --> 00:43:10,306 There's a lot of amazing things about new orleans obviously but you know i don't 694 00:43:10,306 --> 00:43:15,426 think it's a secret to anyone that the nopd is not as straight edge up and up 695 00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:17,466 yeah not at all right yeah, 696 00:43:18,606 --> 00:43:22,926 are you familiar or have you heard of this book i've been reading it i've had 697 00:43:22,926 --> 00:43:26,266 it for years and and I've just started reading Unfathomable City. 698 00:43:26,926 --> 00:43:31,166 It's like an Atlas book. It's a book of, they make these maps and atlases. 699 00:43:32,785 --> 00:43:35,685 Of New Orleans, but there's also lots of history in it. And you guys are, 700 00:43:35,765 --> 00:43:37,885 Rebirth's mentioned in it a couple of times. 701 00:43:38,565 --> 00:43:42,085 Never heard of it. And we're mentioning it. I'm hoping a good one. Oh yeah. 702 00:43:42,165 --> 00:43:46,285 So, so one of the times they say, it's just like a casual throw in a, 703 00:43:46,305 --> 00:43:52,705 in a paragraph about how with Rebirth, the original band members move on and 704 00:43:52,705 --> 00:43:57,005 new ones come in, but, but the, but the spirit plays on a Rebirth indeed, 705 00:43:57,705 --> 00:44:00,505 which I thought was a really nice way of, of, of putting that. 706 00:44:00,505 --> 00:44:03,445 But then they also said we all remember what rebirth 707 00:44:03,445 --> 00:44:06,245 did on tuesday nights they don't say the maple leaf they 708 00:44:06,245 --> 00:44:09,845 just say we all remember what rebirth did on tuesday nights yeah i'll 709 00:44:09,845 --> 00:44:15,885 send you a something so you can see the book would it okay yeah but it's just 710 00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:20,325 a nice shout out and so the reason i'm mentioning this also the tuesday night 711 00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:24,625 thing you guys play on tuesday nights which which is also Mardi Gras, 712 00:44:24,705 --> 00:44:26,305 which is right around the corner. 713 00:44:26,765 --> 00:44:33,265 And so is Mardi Gras being on Tuesday, Fat Tuesday, a big deal for you guys? 714 00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:35,525 Or is it just like another day? 715 00:44:36,465 --> 00:44:40,245 For us, it's a big deal in that when people come to see us on Tuesday night, 716 00:44:40,305 --> 00:44:43,565 we tell people, listen, Mardi Gras may be over, but the party continues. 717 00:44:44,205 --> 00:44:46,865 They're like, what you mean? Like, that's just one part of it. 718 00:44:47,385 --> 00:44:50,785 And we bring them right into Jazz Fest from that point. 719 00:44:50,785 --> 00:44:53,765 Like now it's time for jazz fest get ready i'm like 720 00:44:53,765 --> 00:44:56,825 what like and you might go home like oh mardi gras is over but 721 00:44:56,825 --> 00:45:00,385 not for us every day is mardi gras in new orleans and no matter where you if 722 00:45:00,385 --> 00:45:03,825 you're from new orleans you take your mardi gras with you wherever you at every 723 00:45:03,825 --> 00:45:08,125 tuesday is mardi gras yeah yeah you know in new orleans we drank every day you 724 00:45:08,125 --> 00:45:11,965 know i'm gonna drink on on a weekend no we drank every day we party every day 725 00:45:11,965 --> 00:45:14,725 you just take it that happens that happens Yeah. 726 00:45:16,545 --> 00:45:21,925 So we, Uncle Dad and I, there's a comic convention in New Orleans every, 727 00:45:21,985 --> 00:45:24,145 that first weekend of January called Fan Expo. 728 00:45:24,565 --> 00:45:29,145 And we go there for the convention and cover it for the podcast. Yeah. 729 00:45:30,237 --> 00:45:36,297 It is the most fun and also the most difficult because we're in New Orleans, right? 730 00:45:36,497 --> 00:45:39,897 Yeah, exactly. You have to really have a lot of discipline. 731 00:45:40,497 --> 00:45:44,217 It's hard. There's a lot of partying going on. People don't stop partying. 732 00:45:44,737 --> 00:45:48,897 But you know, like you said, it's a lifestyle of New Orleans. 733 00:45:49,017 --> 00:45:53,557 Like one season just rolls to the next season, you know, into the next, into the next. 734 00:45:53,717 --> 00:45:56,857 And, you know, I don't have to tell you. I mean, I think that's part of why 735 00:45:56,857 --> 00:46:00,477 jazz from New Orleans sounds the way it sounds, right? 736 00:46:00,537 --> 00:46:03,097 Different than anywhere else. Anywhere else, yeah. 737 00:46:03,717 --> 00:46:09,137 You know, it's so loose and fun and it swings. And, you know, I see bands. 738 00:46:09,737 --> 00:46:13,777 I saw this band. I think they're called Lowdown Brass Band. They're from Chicago. 739 00:46:14,057 --> 00:46:18,117 I saw them in San Francisco and they covered one of your guys' songs. 740 00:46:18,377 --> 00:46:19,257 And I talked to them afterwards. 741 00:46:19,617 --> 00:46:25,197 But it was interesting to see someone play a Rebirth song so syncopated and tight. 742 00:46:25,677 --> 00:46:29,657 Where you guys play is so loose and wild and fun. Just, you know, 743 00:46:29,657 --> 00:46:31,297 it's a reflection of where you're from. Right. 744 00:46:31,817 --> 00:46:36,537 That's it. I mean, New Orleans is very loose and wild. There's nothing tight about it. 745 00:46:37,197 --> 00:46:41,117 So you grew up that way. You like everything that's wrong is actually right. 746 00:46:41,897 --> 00:46:46,277 So the lines are blurred. You like people doing stuff wrong and they know it's 747 00:46:46,277 --> 00:46:49,357 wrong. They do it anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 748 00:46:50,330 --> 00:46:53,970 So will you be playing at the rabbit hole on a Mardi Gras night? 749 00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:56,910 I don't think I'll be there this Mardi Gras night. Cause I'm actually in the 750 00:46:56,910 --> 00:47:01,170 process of, we have a big tour coming up, uh, starting on the 17th of February. 751 00:47:01,930 --> 00:47:03,790 So I'm trying to get ready for that. And we got to go to Austin, 752 00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:08,750 Texas, February 10th. And so I'm like, okay, I'll let the other guys take care of that. 753 00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:11,170 I'm not a big Mardi Gras person. I actually, I'm like, okay, 754 00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:14,330 after you do it so many times, you're like, okay, one more Mardi Gras. 755 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:19,850 My wife hasn't seen it. I want her to see it. But for me, it's just another party. 756 00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:22,670 Party like it's not a party yeah there's lots of parties 757 00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:25,870 yeah you know when we had we had uh we talked to vincent he kind 758 00:47:25,870 --> 00:47:29,130 of hung out with us when we were there for fan expo and we 759 00:47:29,130 --> 00:47:31,910 did a little segment with him and he said the same thing as 760 00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:34,930 you he's like i've seen enough parades i 761 00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:37,730 don't care about a parade anymore and you know 762 00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:40,410 it's just whatever for me but then we talked to 763 00:47:40,410 --> 00:47:43,470 eric eric gordon and he's so into 764 00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:47,150 it right and he does the mardi gras indian thing exactly and we 765 00:47:47,150 --> 00:47:50,710 went into a lot of conversation with him about that and and so 766 00:47:50,710 --> 00:47:53,590 it's just interesting to see you guys all have different perspectives on it 767 00:47:53,590 --> 00:47:56,550 you know for me i grew up 768 00:47:56,550 --> 00:48:00,570 in uh mostly in lafayette and you know there's a there's a different kind of 769 00:48:00,570 --> 00:48:04,490 mardi gras there but it's still mardi gras you know right and so i love coming 770 00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:10,330 back and experiencing it it's so nostalgic and it's fun you know it's a lot 771 00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:14,290 it can be a lot of fun you know and i always tell people like you know my perspective 772 00:48:14,290 --> 00:48:15,950 is different because I grew up in it, but. 773 00:48:16,830 --> 00:48:20,190 The first time you see it, people are just blown like, wow. 774 00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:23,510 You know, just do what you want. Anything goes. 775 00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:27,650 It's a lot of neckiness, a lot of drinking as long as you can laugh. 776 00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:30,990 People are like, what? I drank all day? Until you pass out. 777 00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:37,530 Yeah. It goes all night. There's no stopping. The party doesn't stop. It doesn't stop. 778 00:48:38,550 --> 00:48:41,610 There's no 2 o'clock cutoff. It's like 2 o'clock. People are just getting started. 779 00:48:42,030 --> 00:48:44,590 They're just getting revved up. By 4 o'clock in the morning, 780 00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:50,430 And then there's the Bourbon Street kind of tourist... 781 00:48:51,564 --> 00:48:55,144 Mardi Gras, but then there's the actual New Orleans Mardi Gras. 782 00:48:55,184 --> 00:48:57,704 Now, that's what I tell people. If you want to do the Bourbon Street Mardi Gras, 783 00:48:57,804 --> 00:48:59,504 that's a whole different, another animal. 784 00:48:59,964 --> 00:49:02,524 Because that's, I don't even, I'm like, what the hell are they doing down there? 785 00:49:02,704 --> 00:49:05,424 I mean, people jumping on the balconies, and they're like, oh, 786 00:49:05,644 --> 00:49:08,264 wow, yeah, I don't know. You can't even walk. 787 00:49:08,904 --> 00:49:13,384 You can't even walk. You're like, why would you want to walk through a sea of 788 00:49:13,384 --> 00:49:14,584 people you can't get through? 789 00:49:14,884 --> 00:49:17,364 It takes you almost two hours to walk from one end to the other end. 790 00:49:17,664 --> 00:49:21,764 People just drink in Korea, like, nah, and you'll probably step in some throw 791 00:49:21,764 --> 00:49:27,584 up some other human step in some regurgitation along the way maybe some other human, 792 00:49:28,764 --> 00:49:32,164 someone's laying on the ground just naked like why is a man on the ground naked 793 00:49:32,164 --> 00:49:34,244 dressed like a woman like can't explain it to you. 794 00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:38,604 Yeah well you know to each their own right, 795 00:49:39,844 --> 00:49:44,904 well I'm stoked so tell me tell me as we start to wrap up here tell me a bit 796 00:49:44,904 --> 00:49:49,024 about the tour like where you guys gonna be stopping stopping and yeah this 797 00:49:49,024 --> 00:49:52,184 tour coming up we start off in tampa then we go to baltimore, 798 00:49:52,644 --> 00:49:56,444 then we new york city we go to northampton and 799 00:49:56,444 --> 00:49:59,404 hampton beach we're kind 800 00:49:59,404 --> 00:50:02,644 of all it's all on the east coast pretty much um it's gonna 801 00:50:02,644 --> 00:50:07,304 be pretty it's gonna be pretty big and you know a week for us is big like a 802 00:50:07,304 --> 00:50:11,604 week like yeah normally two or three days i'll be back but a week is like it's 803 00:50:11,604 --> 00:50:16,084 like a year because we can get a lot done in one week so yeah yeah and people 804 00:50:16,084 --> 00:50:17,984 in northeast At least they're looking forward to it. Like, yeah, 805 00:50:17,984 --> 00:50:19,524 man, we want to see you guys. Like, okay. 806 00:50:20,264 --> 00:50:25,524 Yeah. Oh, it's a treat. Do you, do you feel, how do you feel about when other bands cover you guys? 807 00:50:25,584 --> 00:50:28,624 Is that like an honor? Do you like appreciate it? 808 00:50:29,024 --> 00:50:31,564 I love it. Like, you want to cover Rebirth? Go right ahead. Yeah. 809 00:50:32,164 --> 00:50:35,444 Because, you know, there's always ways to make money from a band covering your stuff. 810 00:50:35,684 --> 00:50:38,404 Because if they're playing at a venue that's part of ASCAP or BMI, 811 00:50:38,724 --> 00:50:40,304 they actually have to pay for it. 812 00:50:40,324 --> 00:50:43,704 So we get the money on the back end. So I'm like, yeah, by all means, do cover Rebirth stuff. 813 00:50:43,984 --> 00:50:46,504 Go right ahead. Yeah. Yeah. 814 00:50:47,972 --> 00:50:50,932 One of my favorite rock bands is the Chili Peppers. 815 00:50:51,332 --> 00:50:56,152 And I know you guys share a stage and there's this really cool quote that Flea 816 00:50:56,152 --> 00:51:01,672 that's out there from Flea, who's arguably one of the greatest bass players of all time. 817 00:51:02,452 --> 00:51:06,172 Just saw a rebirth brass band. Unbelievable. Hard as hell. 818 00:51:06,472 --> 00:51:11,612 Free as a ray of light. There is not a band on earth that is better. Stunning. 819 00:51:12,372 --> 00:51:16,332 Yeah. Right. I mean, that's, that's also gotta be an honor, right? 820 00:51:16,352 --> 00:51:18,532 Like, you know, Chili Peppers are a pretty big band. 821 00:51:18,572 --> 00:51:21,352 It was a huge, huge honor. And then we went on tour with them. 822 00:51:21,892 --> 00:51:26,492 And he was actually hanging out with one of the Neville guys. 823 00:51:26,872 --> 00:51:28,732 And he was bringing it to Giacomo's in New Orleans. 824 00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:31,832 And we were playing Tuesday night. And he said, man, who's that? 825 00:51:32,472 --> 00:51:35,512 And Ivan Neville said, well, that's Rayburg. He said, I know those guys. 826 00:51:35,712 --> 00:51:38,812 He said, you know those guys? So he goes, Ivan Neville's real tight with Phil. 827 00:51:39,432 --> 00:51:44,512 Phil knows everybody. So he goes, hey, Phil, this is me from Chili Peppers. He said, OK, what up? 828 00:51:44,672 --> 00:51:47,632 He's like, I'm going to check you guys out. So he's checking us out, 829 00:51:47,712 --> 00:51:49,652 having some wine and talking. 830 00:51:49,952 --> 00:51:52,032 He said, man, what you guys think about coming on tour with us? 831 00:51:52,532 --> 00:51:55,532 We're thinking, you know, like, man, he's bullshit. We're not going on tour 832 00:51:55,532 --> 00:51:59,092 with him. A month later, we had a call like, hey, you guys hit it off with the 833 00:51:59,092 --> 00:52:00,072 Chili Peppers. He's like, what? 834 00:52:00,692 --> 00:52:02,592 So we go out on tour with the Chili Peppers. 835 00:52:03,528 --> 00:52:04,948 And that was like playing in the 836 00:52:04,948 --> 00:52:09,208 White House because they're playing in stadiums, 30, 40, 50,000 people. 837 00:52:10,148 --> 00:52:13,788 And the one song, it's called Under the Bridge, one of my favorite Chili Pepper songs. 838 00:52:14,768 --> 00:52:16,888 I saw it tell Flee. I said, Flee, that's one of my favorite songs. 839 00:52:17,008 --> 00:52:19,528 He said, man, I want you to do something for me. He said, when that note comes, 840 00:52:19,868 --> 00:52:21,488 there's a note that he plays at the end. 841 00:52:22,188 --> 00:52:24,468 He said, I want you to hit this key, hit this string right here. 842 00:52:24,828 --> 00:52:27,008 So I go up on stage. And he said, when I tell you to hit it, 843 00:52:27,008 --> 00:52:28,708 hit it. I hit it. And the people go crazy. 844 00:52:29,808 --> 00:52:34,788 I'm like, wow. I felt like a rock star. movie star rock star all kind of stars 845 00:52:34,788 --> 00:52:40,148 so jazz brass band star look at you that's a great story we ended up playing 846 00:52:40,148 --> 00:52:44,988 flea's wedding no no kidding wow what an honor like, 847 00:52:45,668 --> 00:52:53,588 so what what year was that when you guys were uh on tour with them that had to be 2011 or 12, 848 00:52:54,148 --> 00:52:59,828 something like something like that so it was a it was a big tour i mean i mean 849 00:52:59,828 --> 00:53:02,148 they're playing and it's just packed. 850 00:53:02,288 --> 00:53:05,128 There were people jumping out the rafters trying to get on stage with them. 851 00:53:05,248 --> 00:53:08,468 And we're just like, damn, man, this is real rock and roll right here. 852 00:53:08,588 --> 00:53:12,448 And we're in two vans. They're like two big buses. We just rented two vans and 853 00:53:12,448 --> 00:53:13,188 drove all over the country. 854 00:53:13,828 --> 00:53:16,148 That's so fun. And Flea was like, man, you guys do it all. Cool. 855 00:53:16,268 --> 00:53:20,308 We're like, dude, why not? This is all it takes for us. So it was a lot of fun. 856 00:53:20,968 --> 00:53:24,308 And Flea's a lifetime friend. And he's always calling, checking, 857 00:53:24,428 --> 00:53:25,348 like, what you guys into? 858 00:53:26,088 --> 00:53:28,068 Just out on the road. He's like, okay, keep up the good work, 859 00:53:28,108 --> 00:53:31,908 man. I'm going to have to help you get my Chili Peppers poster signed. 860 00:53:32,808 --> 00:53:33,588 Definitely, man. I might ask 861 00:53:33,588 --> 00:53:37,988 for a favor. Okay, no problem. No problem at all. All right, real quick. 862 00:53:38,388 --> 00:53:41,308 Favorite venue to play in in New Orleans? 863 00:53:41,828 --> 00:53:44,648 Like top, what's your top one? You named off a few. 864 00:53:45,328 --> 00:53:49,908 My top one would probably be Tips, Tippy Teens. Yeah. Yeah. 865 00:53:50,668 --> 00:53:55,988 Favorite venue to watch another band play in New Orleans? Like if you were to just go watch. 866 00:53:56,888 --> 00:54:01,948 Just go watch? I like House of Blues. House of Blues. Okay. 867 00:54:02,608 --> 00:54:07,228 All right. What about, what's the favorite venue you've ever played in, period? 868 00:54:07,528 --> 00:54:10,688 Like, was it one of these huge stadiums with the Chili Peppers, 869 00:54:10,748 --> 00:54:13,648 or is it like a smaller venue like in New York? 870 00:54:13,928 --> 00:54:16,788 You talking about in the world? Just in the world, yeah. 871 00:54:17,508 --> 00:54:21,528 You know what I like? This was in 1986. We played Bumbershoot in Seattle, Washington. Okay. 872 00:54:22,316 --> 00:54:28,476 It was outdoors. It's kind of like an amphitheater. We recently went back to Bumbershoot in August. 873 00:54:29,036 --> 00:54:33,816 For some reason, Seattle has really good sound. It just sounds so good. 874 00:54:34,636 --> 00:54:39,476 I guess they put a lot of money into the sound equipment. I like playing Seattle, period. 875 00:54:40,556 --> 00:54:43,996 Okay. Bumbershoot. Next time we're in Seattle, Uncle Dad, we'll have to go to 876 00:54:43,996 --> 00:54:47,116 the Bumbershoot for a show. Yeah, check it out. We'll definitely do it for sure. Definitely. 877 00:54:48,196 --> 00:54:51,596 Last one, and the most important one. What's your favorite place to watch the 878 00:54:51,596 --> 00:54:56,056 Saints game? on TV. The crazy thing is I'm not a big Saints fan. 879 00:54:56,836 --> 00:55:00,696 I'm a Cowboys fan, but I still want the home team to win. When they lose, 880 00:55:00,956 --> 00:55:03,636 I'm giving everybody shit like, y'all lost another one. 881 00:55:03,916 --> 00:55:07,196 When they lose, no one calls me. They refuse. 882 00:55:07,556 --> 00:55:10,836 My phone is like solids of lambs. How does that happen? 883 00:55:11,656 --> 00:55:15,036 When I was a kid, this lady was watching us and it was 1972. 884 00:55:15,436 --> 00:55:16,696 The Cowboys won the Super Bowl. 885 00:55:17,416 --> 00:55:21,116 At the time, they're kicking ass, beating everybody. I saw that team. 886 00:55:21,176 --> 00:55:22,356 I'm like, okay, that'll be my my team. 887 00:55:22,796 --> 00:55:27,396 Then when I, in 1970, that San B in 1972, it snowed in New Orleans, 888 00:55:27,516 --> 00:55:31,236 but that Christmas, my mom brought my brother Phil a Saints uniform with the 889 00:55:31,236 --> 00:55:33,876 helmet, and she didn't give me one, so I said, well, that's not my team. 890 00:55:34,016 --> 00:55:35,136 I'll just pick another team. 891 00:55:35,576 --> 00:55:39,716 And that's pretty much what happened. The team that was always on TV was the Cowboys. 892 00:55:40,376 --> 00:55:43,156 And so, but I always tell people, like, I prefer to see them win, 893 00:55:43,256 --> 00:55:45,596 because when they lose, everyone is, like, in a dumps. I was like, 894 00:55:45,696 --> 00:55:49,396 you just don't want to be like, oh, man, just let them win something, please. 895 00:55:49,916 --> 00:55:53,916 And my dad was, my dad went to the very first Saints game in Tulane Stadium. 896 00:55:54,076 --> 00:55:57,896 He actually saw the Dempsey guy kick the 63 yarder. Oh, yeah. 897 00:55:58,756 --> 00:56:01,876 When the Saints won the Super Bowl, I felt good for him. I'm like, 898 00:56:01,956 --> 00:56:05,976 you know what? All that money he put into the Saints, damn, I wish he was here to see the payout. 899 00:56:06,850 --> 00:56:11,490 Yeah, my stepdad's a huge Bills fan, and he's from Buffalo. 900 00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:18,090 Get this guy a Super Bowl before he croaks. Yeah. 901 00:56:20,010 --> 00:56:23,930 See, on certain teams, you just want to see the Bills, Detroit. 902 00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:27,190 You just want to cleave. He's like, man, could somebody please let them have 903 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:28,830 a Super Bowl? Just one time. 904 00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:31,530 Do the 49ers need another Super Bowl? 905 00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:33,750 All right, all right. That's what I'm talking about with the Cowboys. 906 00:56:33,850 --> 00:56:37,190 They actually don't need another Super Bowl. but the 49ers don't either. 907 00:56:39,110 --> 00:56:42,850 Uncle Dad likes the 49ers. 908 00:56:43,290 --> 00:56:48,290 I like to see the Cowboys play the 49ers all the time because win or lose, 909 00:56:48,550 --> 00:56:52,710 it just makes everybody hate the Cowboys so much. It's just fun. I love to be hated. 910 00:56:55,630 --> 00:56:58,890 Last time we played you, I'll just tell you, that wasn't so good. 911 00:57:00,410 --> 00:57:04,010 But didn't it feel good to beat the Cowboys down? Of course. 912 00:57:04,970 --> 00:57:07,410 It feels good to be a villain sometimes. I'm going to be the villain. 913 00:57:07,550 --> 00:57:08,370 Yeah, I'm going to be the villain. 914 00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:14,810 Yeah. It does, yeah. Well, Keith, it's an honor, man. And thank you for coming 915 00:57:14,810 --> 00:57:16,430 on and talking to me about all that stuff. 916 00:57:16,610 --> 00:57:20,590 I love you guys and what you do and how you make people feel. 917 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:23,350 It's always an honor to see you guys jam at the show. 918 00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:27,570 It was an honor to design and do a hat with you guys. We did a bar bridge. 919 00:57:27,770 --> 00:57:29,670 We need more hats. They sell so fast. 920 00:57:30,010 --> 00:57:33,010 We need more hats. Okay, all right. So I'll call Mike and get some more hats. 921 00:57:33,390 --> 00:57:35,230 Okay. we'll put it down. Thanks for the hat. 922 00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:39,550 And yeah, and I, you know, and I just, I respect, I respect what you guys do. 923 00:57:39,610 --> 00:57:41,650 I respect the culture. I respect the music. 924 00:57:41,810 --> 00:57:45,490 And where can people find you guys? 925 00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:50,730 Rebirthbrassband.com, Rebirthbrassband.com. You just, just Google Rebirth Brass 926 00:57:50,730 --> 00:57:53,070 Band and all shows will pretty much come up. 927 00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:56,730 They can call me. You can text me. My, my number's 24 seven. 928 00:57:57,270 --> 00:58:00,210 If I don't get back to you, I won't, I'll tell people I will answer you. 929 00:58:00,250 --> 00:58:02,350 Like you actually call back. Like, yeah, why not? 930 00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:06,690 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, put your phone number out on the listen notes. 931 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:09,190 Put the phone number on, yeah. Put it on. 932 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:15,750 All right, man. Well, I hope to see you soon at a show and it's been an honor. And thank you again. 933 00:58:16,450 --> 00:58:19,270 All right. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. Same to you guys. 934 00:58:19,930 --> 00:58:23,270 Hold on. Before we go, Mike, you got to wrap it up the right way. 935 00:58:23,550 --> 00:58:25,790 How do we wrap up the show? Yeah, here we go. That's right. 936 00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:31,730 We are not uncles. We are not dads, ads, but we're someone that you can talk 937 00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:33,190 to and we'll see you all next week. 938 00:58:33,520 --> 00:59:15,277 Music.