TGP Episode 9: Metal Gear Games

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,800 Music. 2 00:00:26,649 --> 00:00:31,629 Hello, everyone. Welcome to this week's bi-weekly episode of The Game Papas. 3 00:00:31,709 --> 00:00:38,349 I'm Uncle Dad, and with me, as always, is the Retro Gaming Nomad. What's up, man? 4 00:00:38,749 --> 00:00:43,489 Cheers! Hello, everybody. Welcome back. Welcome back. 5 00:00:45,369 --> 00:00:51,369 Welcome back. Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. A little welcome back, Kata. 6 00:00:51,929 --> 00:00:55,909 Yeah, man. man. Every time I hear that, I actually did that one of our Uncle 7 00:00:55,909 --> 00:00:59,629 Dad Talks episode where Mike came back from being gone so long and I put the 8 00:00:59,629 --> 00:01:02,249 fucking welcome back theme in there. 9 00:01:04,169 --> 00:01:09,429 Did it take him back? It took him forward. Did he start talking like John Travolta? 10 00:01:10,229 --> 00:01:13,769 Oh yeah, he's in that, huh? Yeah, that was the first shit, dude. 11 00:01:14,429 --> 00:01:18,669 Wow, I forgot about that. But speaking of old school things, 12 00:01:18,909 --> 00:01:22,369 we are talking about today's subject which is near 13 00:01:22,369 --> 00:01:26,029 and dear to my heart well sort of metal gear 14 00:01:26,029 --> 00:01:29,609 those can't see because we're not video is is 15 00:01:29,609 --> 00:01:32,529 retro gaming nomad putting his metal 16 00:01:32,529 --> 00:01:35,469 gear in my face yeah so what 17 00:01:35,469 --> 00:01:38,349 i'm gonna do is i got a bunch of games here because 18 00:01:38,349 --> 00:01:41,029 uncle dad's definitely one of the 19 00:01:41,029 --> 00:01:43,929 biggest metal gear fans i know and we always 20 00:01:43,929 --> 00:01:47,169 have a joke every year because he's like no dude snake's dead metal 21 00:01:47,169 --> 00:01:50,329 gear's over with and i was like no it's never dead they're gonna 22 00:01:50,329 --> 00:01:53,589 bring it back and they are gonna milk that teat 23 00:01:53,589 --> 00:01:56,269 until it's dry and guess what they're gonna do after that they're gonna 24 00:01:56,269 --> 00:02:00,469 make powdered milk and they're gonna bring it back again and then after the 25 00:02:00,469 --> 00:02:03,289 powder milk goes spoiled guess what they're gonna get they're gonna get some 26 00:02:03,289 --> 00:02:07,169 similac and they're gonna remix it and they're gonna bring it back in it will 27 00:02:07,169 --> 00:02:13,909 never die snake will never die so while he's talking i am gonna put up to to 28 00:02:13,909 --> 00:02:15,129 the camera. You guys can't see. 29 00:02:15,609 --> 00:02:19,249 I'm going to put up to the camera a Metal Gear game, and he doesn't know this, 30 00:02:19,349 --> 00:02:20,989 and I wanted him to say a little something about it. 31 00:02:21,545 --> 00:02:26,385 Okay, we're just going to do that right now? Well, no, go ahead with your intro, Metal Gear. 32 00:02:27,085 --> 00:02:32,145 Okay, so Metal Gear Solid celebrates, sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Year will 33 00:02:32,145 --> 00:02:34,365 celebrate its 20th anniversary this year. 34 00:02:34,665 --> 00:02:37,545 A lot of people consider 3 or 2 to be the best. 35 00:02:37,925 --> 00:02:42,225 Personally, I think 3 is the best one because it was a prequel to the franchise, 36 00:02:42,625 --> 00:02:44,105 which gets very confusing. 37 00:02:44,245 --> 00:02:48,485 And to be honest with you, I do not want, and Retro, you tell me too, 38 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:51,785 I really don't want to dive into the plot lines overall because it's going to 39 00:02:51,785 --> 00:02:53,365 make no sense and we're going to be confused. 40 00:02:54,165 --> 00:02:57,665 You can't. Yeah, we don't have enough time on this podcast. 41 00:02:57,965 --> 00:03:02,265 I think by the time we're done explaining the entire story, which I don't even 42 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:05,405 know anymore, these people will probably die themselves. 43 00:03:05,705 --> 00:03:09,025 Either starvation if they listen to us or they'll turn into freaking mummy dust. 44 00:03:09,445 --> 00:03:13,845 Because who knows? Everybody's everybody's mom. Everybody's a clone of somebody 45 00:03:13,845 --> 00:03:16,165 else. Who knows? You might be a solid snake. 46 00:03:16,345 --> 00:03:19,365 I don't know. And you're a naked snake. 47 00:03:22,145 --> 00:03:27,625 I'm Revolver Talks A Lot. That's what I am. I didn't put a little rim shot in there. 48 00:03:29,185 --> 00:03:34,445 Yeah, so Metal Gear Solid 3 in my opinion had one of the most unique storylines 49 00:03:34,445 --> 00:03:37,025 that took place during the Cold War. 50 00:03:37,765 --> 00:03:45,725 You kind of see what Solid Snake is... Not Solid Snake. At that time he was Naked Snake, right? 51 00:03:46,865 --> 00:03:48,605 That's the thing. Naked Snake. 52 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:54,085 So he's currently holding up Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater. 53 00:03:54,305 --> 00:03:58,805 And, you know, to kind of talk about Metal Gear Solid 3, or all Metal Gears, 54 00:03:59,505 --> 00:04:04,025 what is the deal with them always repackaging it with a special edition basically later? 55 00:04:04,785 --> 00:04:08,945 What is your thoughts on that? Because why not? It's a money grab. 56 00:04:09,585 --> 00:04:12,385 That's a money grab, bro. Those are money grabs for sure. 57 00:04:13,445 --> 00:04:17,185 For sure they are. I just showed you Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater. 58 00:04:17,185 --> 00:04:18,465 And then one of the things I 59 00:04:18,465 --> 00:04:25,845 just posted on my Instagram is the not-so-well-known Merely Good Solid 3D. 60 00:04:26,911 --> 00:04:31,151 Snake Eater. Yeah. And then you also have... 61 00:04:32,191 --> 00:04:35,811 Which Konami had to release that little... Remember that little attachment to 62 00:04:35,811 --> 00:04:37,691 the 3DS? It had a second analog stick? 63 00:04:38,831 --> 00:04:42,631 That's right! Oh my god, I forgot about that. That was for this game. 64 00:04:42,831 --> 00:04:48,151 And you had to... You can go to Konami's official site and actually get it. 65 00:04:48,211 --> 00:04:50,331 So you can control the camera and stuff, man. Yeah. 66 00:04:50,931 --> 00:04:55,191 That's right. Wow, I forgot about that. So on the subject of Snake Eater, 67 00:04:55,311 --> 00:04:58,831 we have Snake Eater 3D, Snake Eater, the original release. 68 00:04:59,071 --> 00:05:02,591 You have Snake Eater Subsistence, I think it's called. 69 00:05:04,271 --> 00:05:08,891 That's the one they repackaged. And there's two versions of that version as well. 70 00:05:09,091 --> 00:05:14,411 You have the Snake Eater Subsistence Standard Package, which comes with, 71 00:05:14,471 --> 00:05:19,031 I think, the game, extra shit, and then, I think, Metal Gear 1 and 2, 72 00:05:19,111 --> 00:05:20,671 like Metal Gear for the NES. 73 00:05:21,651 --> 00:05:26,631 And then I believe it also came came with like extra scenes but then there's 74 00:05:26,631 --> 00:05:31,291 another version of that version that comes with a dvd that's the entire cut 75 00:05:31,291 --> 00:05:36,631 scenes into one dvd yeah because i didn't do that because i have 76 00:05:37,011 --> 00:05:39,911 well no i'll let you go on with metal gear solid 3 because i got this other 77 00:05:39,911 --> 00:05:45,931 one here with two but uh i'll let you go so metal gear solid 3 just had a bunch of versions, 78 00:05:46,691 --> 00:05:49,611 one of the things mr no man that i have wanted my entire 79 00:05:49,611 --> 00:05:52,311 life and i know don't have and i 80 00:05:52,311 --> 00:05:55,271 want it so bad is the metal it was for e3 81 00:05:55,271 --> 00:05:58,231 back when they did it and it was an e3 exclusive 82 00:05:58,231 --> 00:06:04,711 vinyl of the metal gear solid theme song snake eater it was like a james bond 83 00:06:04,711 --> 00:06:07,871 type theme song i'm sure you remember if you heard it you would know it but 84 00:06:07,871 --> 00:06:12,631 it was like one of the most beautiful things in the medical universe and they 85 00:06:12,631 --> 00:06:17,931 made a full-size lp vinyl that had one song on it and that was the, 86 00:06:18,651 --> 00:06:20,691 and that was the Snake Eater theme song. 87 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:25,671 You can buy it online on eBay, probably like $200, $300, but if I could ever 88 00:06:25,671 --> 00:06:27,991 find one in the wild, man, I want that so bad. 89 00:06:28,531 --> 00:06:31,431 So fucking bad. They're not going to do a repressing of it? 90 00:06:32,294 --> 00:06:36,814 They never did. They never did. And it's weird because you know that would sell, 91 00:06:36,934 --> 00:06:38,654 right? Like that would totally sell. 92 00:06:39,434 --> 00:06:44,094 Well, yeah. And the fact that they re-released Metal Gear Solid 3 17 times and 93 00:06:44,094 --> 00:06:45,374 they can't do the vinyl twice? 94 00:06:45,874 --> 00:06:48,754 Like, come on. It's too expensive. 95 00:06:51,374 --> 00:06:54,274 You know, and it's funny because when you think about Metal Gear, 96 00:06:54,374 --> 00:06:58,394 and you think about Metal Gear Solid 3, not only is there the remakes there, 97 00:06:58,534 --> 00:07:01,254 but it was also released in other collections, correct? correct? 98 00:07:01,514 --> 00:07:07,414 Metal Gear Saga, Metal Gear Legacy, and there's another one coming out, 99 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:10,894 Metal Gear Collectors, whatever the fuck. 100 00:07:11,374 --> 00:07:13,454 Volume 1 and Volume 2. 101 00:07:15,074 --> 00:07:23,494 There's another remake, a full-blown high-def 4K remake of Snake Eater 3 coming out this year. 102 00:07:23,554 --> 00:07:25,914 Or sorry, Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater this year. 103 00:07:26,094 --> 00:07:30,674 Called Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater Delta. Delta. Wow. 104 00:07:31,534 --> 00:07:37,614 Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater Eats Again. Yeah, I have the PS3 Legacy. 105 00:07:38,554 --> 00:07:42,614 That's the Legacy. Legacy Collection. Yeah, that one has Metal Gear 1, 106 00:07:42,874 --> 00:07:48,594 then Metal Gear 2, Solid Snake, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid something, 107 00:07:48,854 --> 00:07:53,134 Metal Gear Solid 2, 3, 4, and then the... 108 00:07:53,794 --> 00:07:56,774 I can't even read this anymore. My eyes are bad. 109 00:07:59,834 --> 00:08:03,394 Yeah subsistence all that yeah metal gear 110 00:08:03,394 --> 00:08:06,194 solid is one of those games kind of to what you're to you're 111 00:08:06,194 --> 00:08:09,054 saying in our previous episode we talked about classics and 112 00:08:09,054 --> 00:08:13,454 how they're being remade and whatever but when you talk about this this particular 113 00:08:13,454 --> 00:08:18,894 series i cannot think of another game that has had so many other than probably 114 00:08:18,894 --> 00:08:24,294 street fighter right that have so many iterations of this fucking game come 115 00:08:24,294 --> 00:08:26,614 out? Can you think of another one besides Street Fighter? 116 00:08:26,994 --> 00:08:29,674 Are you talking about specifically number three or the series? 117 00:08:30,454 --> 00:08:33,514 The series, because think about it, they all get re-released all the time. 118 00:08:35,274 --> 00:08:36,714 Yeah, maybe Resident Evil. 119 00:08:37,651 --> 00:08:41,091 Yeah, okay. That's close. I would say it's definitely not as often, but close. Yeah. 120 00:08:42,131 --> 00:08:49,011 Yeah. Because they're redoing 4 now. I mean, they did 4. They're redoing Code Veronica next. 121 00:08:49,771 --> 00:08:54,151 Right, right. So, yeah. And then if you look at number 1, they redid number 122 00:08:54,151 --> 00:08:58,431 1 multiple times, and then the Origins, and then GameCube, and then... 123 00:08:58,431 --> 00:09:02,871 Well, I mean, in Metal Gear, yeah, you look at Metal Gear, they did the phenomenal 124 00:09:02,871 --> 00:09:05,471 Twin Snakes, I mean, on the GameCube. 125 00:09:05,651 --> 00:09:09,791 And they're supposed to redo that one now, too. that one has never been released 126 00:09:09,791 --> 00:09:14,131 on a collection isn't that absolute bullshit yeah because I think it's down 127 00:09:14,131 --> 00:09:16,291 to the developers I guess. 128 00:09:17,971 --> 00:09:26,291 Yeah because Silicon Knights developed it and Nintendo owns it yes I think you're right. 129 00:09:27,311 --> 00:09:30,011 And honestly that port or that 130 00:09:30,011 --> 00:09:32,671 remake of Metal Gear Solid 1 was one of the 131 00:09:32,671 --> 00:09:35,531 most impressive remakes I've ever seen for 132 00:09:35,531 --> 00:09:38,651 a game because it was such a great of taking what 133 00:09:38,651 --> 00:09:41,371 was so great about the game already and then making it 134 00:09:41,371 --> 00:09:44,351 better and then filling in things that you didn't see because you 135 00:09:44,351 --> 00:09:47,251 didn't have the really shitty polygon graphics right from the playstation 1 136 00:09:47,251 --> 00:09:52,451 like it was just it was impeccable i seriously think having that comeback would 137 00:09:52,451 --> 00:09:57,311 be amazing i mean we can we need that we need that remake we need to really 138 00:09:57,311 --> 00:10:00,611 we do need that remake more than we need another release of metal gear solid 139 00:10:00,611 --> 00:10:03,191 3 i completely I completely agree. 140 00:10:03,471 --> 00:10:08,791 And Metal Gear Solid, let's talk about Metal Gear Solid 1, PlayStation 1. 141 00:10:09,371 --> 00:10:17,091 That game was the first game I ever played where I felt I was controlling a 142 00:10:17,091 --> 00:10:19,011 movie because of the presentation. 143 00:10:19,331 --> 00:10:23,071 Because the one thing that impressed me the most was that intro, 144 00:10:23,191 --> 00:10:28,231 and then you're going up the elevator, and then the credits start going. I'm like, bro. Bro. 145 00:10:28,946 --> 00:10:32,366 This is bad ass and you're 146 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:35,146 just way you can't fast forward or anything and it's just like that's that 147 00:10:35,146 --> 00:10:43,526 music you know directed by hideo kojima and you know konami and all the developers 148 00:10:43,526 --> 00:10:47,386 it was in the beginning and i was like dude who does nobody's done that really 149 00:10:47,386 --> 00:10:51,666 before i mean it felt like a freaking movie yeah almost like a michael bay type 150 00:10:51,666 --> 00:10:53,946 movie huh like like a like a high budget. 151 00:10:54,906 --> 00:10:58,446 Don't insult Metal Gear with Michael Bay. 152 00:10:59,106 --> 00:11:01,546 I'm not a Michael Bay fan. 153 00:11:02,246 --> 00:11:05,986 He destroyed my 20 years, man. I'm sorry. Oh, man. 154 00:11:06,986 --> 00:11:12,106 Oh, dude. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. 155 00:11:12,586 --> 00:11:14,566 I mean, because he was the man at the time. 156 00:11:16,526 --> 00:11:19,086 What did he have at the time? The Island? What was that called? 157 00:11:19,966 --> 00:11:23,486 No, the Island. That was the 2000s. We're talking like old school. Miami. 158 00:11:24,626 --> 00:11:28,266 What is it? Oh my god, not Hot Club. Bad Boys. There we go. 159 00:11:29,766 --> 00:11:33,306 Yeah, Bad Boys is good. Independence Day? Come on. 160 00:11:34,286 --> 00:11:36,506 Independence Day was good. Yeah, I forgot that was Michael Bay. 161 00:11:36,606 --> 00:11:41,146 That was good. Exactly, dude. Armageddon came out. Armageddon's his dude. 162 00:11:42,626 --> 00:11:46,046 Armageddon was alright. I thought it was alright. Oh my lord, 163 00:11:46,126 --> 00:11:47,166 you better not have Mike hear you. 164 00:11:49,206 --> 00:11:52,306 Sorry, Mike. But you know, 165 00:11:52,346 --> 00:11:55,506 Metal Gear Solid solid when you talk about that that opening sequence 166 00:11:55,506 --> 00:11:58,686 that that feeling you get of being in a movie they try 167 00:11:58,686 --> 00:12:01,386 to replicate that in every single game which usually i would say 168 00:12:01,386 --> 00:12:04,066 they nail but the problem is and i know those 169 00:12:04,066 --> 00:12:07,986 people are going to listen because i think you agree with me on this hideo kojima 170 00:12:07,986 --> 00:12:12,406 fanboys are the most hardcore fans in the world and they will fight you too 171 00:12:12,406 --> 00:12:17,186 saying that you're wrong his games are great and i'm not denying that they're 172 00:12:17,186 --> 00:12:21,306 not great but they are convoluted we have to admit to that i mean you got it 173 00:12:21,306 --> 00:12:22,686 you have to be on my side on that one. 174 00:12:23,306 --> 00:12:25,426 Oh, I'm 100% on your side. I think, 175 00:12:26,471 --> 00:12:31,491 As time went on, I think some of the originality that especially with number 176 00:12:31,491 --> 00:12:36,931 one and part number two, it kind of got repeated and stuff wasn't as original. 177 00:12:37,031 --> 00:12:40,371 And that and I don't I wouldn't say that's his fault. 178 00:12:40,511 --> 00:12:43,871 I mean, he was so original when he when he came out with Solid, 179 00:12:44,071 --> 00:12:47,271 Solid two, you know, and eventually with Solid three. 180 00:12:47,831 --> 00:12:51,791 It's it's not really his fault because he had to keep topping it. 181 00:12:51,851 --> 00:12:55,831 You know what I mean? So I think think of it like a M. like shalaman movie you 182 00:12:55,831 --> 00:12:58,871 know at the beginning like all his movies all had a twist at the end of you're 183 00:12:58,871 --> 00:13:02,011 like oh my god i'm gonna go watch every one of his movies and later on you're like yeah, 184 00:13:02,811 --> 00:13:06,511 that i was waiting for that i was waiting for that knockout punch and it really 185 00:13:06,511 --> 00:13:09,971 kind of didn't happen i kind of i kind of got it like an easy piece of leg or 186 00:13:09,971 --> 00:13:11,111 maybe like a little elbow instead. 187 00:13:12,511 --> 00:13:18,071 And i i i don't want to blame hedale for that but i think to your point some 188 00:13:18,071 --> 00:13:25,731 of his fans or fanboys put some of his stuff maybe rated a little too high. 189 00:13:27,431 --> 00:13:31,471 We're not sitting here trying to bad mouth him, although I do have a story that 190 00:13:31,471 --> 00:13:33,251 to this day still pisses me off. 191 00:13:34,331 --> 00:13:35,771 You know what I'm talking about. 192 00:13:37,011 --> 00:13:40,171 But yeah, it was a death stranding, man. 193 00:13:41,271 --> 00:13:47,371 It got a bunch of awards. I believe that's eventually getting a sequel and a 194 00:13:47,371 --> 00:13:49,971 remake or something like that. And I know a lot of people are like, 195 00:13:50,031 --> 00:13:51,411 oh, my God, this game was incredible. 196 00:13:51,651 --> 00:13:54,371 This game was genius. And I was like, was it really? 197 00:13:55,311 --> 00:14:00,111 I thought it was like, I thought it was super repetitive. And the gameplay was, I mean, it was cool. 198 00:14:00,171 --> 00:14:04,771 It was a cool game. But in nowhere would I say genius status or, 199 00:14:04,851 --> 00:14:09,931 you know, that game doesn't crack my top 100, maybe not even 200. 200 00:14:10,571 --> 00:14:13,791 But I know people that just swear by that game. And that's, you know, 201 00:14:13,811 --> 00:14:15,711 they're just huge Hideo fans. 202 00:14:15,931 --> 00:14:18,671 I'm like, okay, yeah, more power to you. because i'm sure there's games that 203 00:14:18,671 --> 00:14:21,491 i like and developers i like and they're like uh yeah i don't know i don't 204 00:14:21,491 --> 00:14:24,771 think that game was that good but to me it was totally and 205 00:14:24,771 --> 00:14:27,771 i think too when you think about like the i like 206 00:14:27,771 --> 00:14:31,511 to call it the metal gear effect where it's like that's a series when you play 207 00:14:31,511 --> 00:14:36,871 it you kind of like have to really like think like you don't know anything each 208 00:14:36,871 --> 00:14:40,671 game right and like that's kind of how this writing feels like you have to go 209 00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:44,311 in like not knowing anything because if you go in with some pre-assumption of 210 00:14:44,311 --> 00:14:47,611 what this game is about it's gonna make no fucking sense And honestly, 211 00:14:47,831 --> 00:14:49,971 I'm probably going to get shit for this. 212 00:14:50,131 --> 00:14:53,371 Death Stranding, to me, feels like a walking simulator, personally. 213 00:14:54,931 --> 00:15:00,831 Yeah, I feel like a space-aged UPS delivery guy, man. I'm sorry. 214 00:15:01,771 --> 00:15:05,511 There's all this technology, but yet you're carrying stuff on your back. 215 00:15:06,931 --> 00:15:10,351 There's all this technology around. Why can't I use the technology, man? 216 00:15:11,437 --> 00:15:14,277 I know. I know. And then you've got to balance your weights. 217 00:15:14,377 --> 00:15:16,937 Like, I don't know. I don't want to play a game where I got to balance my weight. 218 00:15:18,137 --> 00:15:22,037 And I see that. I see that he was trying to make that a game within a game, 219 00:15:22,097 --> 00:15:24,477 you know, a strategy part within the game. 220 00:15:24,897 --> 00:15:29,077 And I get it. I respect it. It was kind of cool. Hey, you had to pull the triggers and balance it. 221 00:15:29,497 --> 00:15:33,537 And that might be cool for like a mini game. But the fact that I had to do that 222 00:15:33,537 --> 00:15:38,897 and traverse like this rough terrain and the whole time I'm just dropping packages. 223 00:15:38,957 --> 00:15:41,017 I have to pick them back up and rebalance them and do it. 224 00:15:41,117 --> 00:15:44,077 I got damn it, dude. Can I just get to the point? 225 00:15:44,537 --> 00:15:47,437 Can I just get to point a to point B, you know? And I'm just like, 226 00:15:47,497 --> 00:15:48,937 Oh, it's driving me nuts, man. 227 00:15:50,177 --> 00:15:54,777 And I think that goes back to his, his creativity and trying to create something different. 228 00:15:55,117 --> 00:16:01,017 And for me, that one didn't work with metal gear, going back to metal gear, solid one. 229 00:16:01,077 --> 00:16:04,037 I mean, some of the stuff that he did in there, like the knocking on the wall 230 00:16:04,037 --> 00:16:09,137 to attract people the first time ever, I was able to hide into a locker and 231 00:16:09,137 --> 00:16:12,537 you could see through the locker vents, you know, and see what's going on. 232 00:16:13,237 --> 00:16:17,117 Crawling in the vents on top and looking down, you know, the longer you stared 233 00:16:17,117 --> 00:16:21,217 at your female counterpart, she starts saying, hey, what are you looking at? 234 00:16:21,277 --> 00:16:23,657 Kind of stuff, you know, stuff like that just triggered. I was like, 235 00:16:23,717 --> 00:16:25,337 oh, dude, that's freaking awesome. That's genius. 236 00:16:25,917 --> 00:16:30,217 And then going back to one of his other games that he made, which blew me away. 237 00:16:31,597 --> 00:16:35,977 And a lot of collectors looking for this one complete is the Boktai for the Game Boy Advance. 238 00:16:35,977 --> 00:16:39,017 Ants i don't know if you remember that one remember it 239 00:16:39,017 --> 00:16:41,977 was like a vampire hunter simulator kind of thing and it 240 00:16:41,977 --> 00:16:44,957 had a uv uv ray detector where you 241 00:16:44,957 --> 00:16:47,737 literally had to take this cartridge you know unless you 242 00:16:47,737 --> 00:16:50,657 cheated with a uv lamp those of you who have you 243 00:16:50,657 --> 00:16:53,717 know growing some uh some of that latin lettuce 244 00:16:53,717 --> 00:16:57,637 in your garage but um no but 245 00:16:57,637 --> 00:17:00,277 so you would take bacti you know and it had 246 00:17:00,277 --> 00:17:02,977 a cartridge had a little sensor on the top of the cartridge and you literally had to 247 00:17:02,977 --> 00:17:06,117 play this thing outside and the uv ray would charge 248 00:17:06,117 --> 00:17:08,837 up and then when you played the game at night or 249 00:17:08,837 --> 00:17:11,717 you went into the caves on the game you were limited to how 250 00:17:11,717 --> 00:17:14,757 much uv ray your sensor had and that's 251 00:17:14,757 --> 00:17:17,577 how you got to shine your light and and show you know 252 00:17:17,577 --> 00:17:20,557 and and go after the the critters and the vampires or whatever that were in 253 00:17:20,557 --> 00:17:25,177 the caves that was genius to me dude as stuff like that you know and that's 254 00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:29,757 that's right after like metal gear that's one of the kind of the unsung games 255 00:17:29,757 --> 00:17:34,617 that i thought was in my opinion was genius of him that that creativity but 256 00:17:34,617 --> 00:17:36,177 death stranding wasn't it for me man. 257 00:17:37,202 --> 00:17:42,582 I agree with you, but for me, the one that I think of that really defined his career is Snatcher. 258 00:17:43,362 --> 00:17:47,282 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sega CD Snatcher. 259 00:17:48,142 --> 00:17:52,602 Yeah. I tried to play that one recently, and I just realized how much I don't 260 00:17:52,602 --> 00:17:54,882 like to read anymore. Oh, yeah. It's hard reading. 261 00:17:55,442 --> 00:18:02,662 Yeah. I had to read a lot, although I did kind of get into Disco Elysium. 262 00:18:02,802 --> 00:18:06,962 Disco Elysium is pretty freaking badass, dude. It's a different story. 263 00:18:07,622 --> 00:18:10,422 Yeah yeah but a lot of reading but i don't i normally don't read anymore 264 00:18:10,422 --> 00:18:13,122 you know back back in the days when i was playing games i had 265 00:18:13,122 --> 00:18:16,402 more patience able to read that stuff and yeah and snatcher absolutely man 266 00:18:16,402 --> 00:18:22,122 that was a freaking game changer man dude and it sets it sets up very much like 267 00:18:22,122 --> 00:18:27,202 who he is gonna be you know what i mean like who hideo kojima is gonna be what 268 00:18:27,202 --> 00:18:32,102 his games are gonna be like the theatrical they're the production is high you 269 00:18:32,102 --> 00:18:34,922 know they create stories that get you involved and connected. 270 00:18:35,342 --> 00:18:38,422 And even though Metal Gear Solid is one of those games that kind of, 271 00:18:38,442 --> 00:18:42,322 you know, it is a very convoluted story, especially when you think about the big picture. 272 00:18:42,762 --> 00:18:45,422 It's still such an involved story. I mean, Metal Gear Solid 1, 273 00:18:46,022 --> 00:18:49,022 Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 2, it's good. 274 00:18:49,242 --> 00:18:52,122 I know why a lot of people love it. I have a hard time with it just because 275 00:18:52,122 --> 00:18:55,162 I didn't care for the switch between Raiden and Solid Snake. 276 00:18:55,482 --> 00:19:00,262 Metal Gear Solid 3, say Masterpiece. Metal Gear Solid 3 is so well thought out. 277 00:19:00,582 --> 00:19:04,322 Metal Gear Solid 4, well, you know it's 278 00:19:04,322 --> 00:19:07,042 it's great to see the the whole franchise come to an end 279 00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:10,462 at the time at least because i remember telling you you're right we used to 280 00:19:10,462 --> 00:19:13,202 work together and i remember saying dude but this is it like this is they're 281 00:19:13,202 --> 00:19:17,022 gonna kill him off it's over and then you had said no one day he's gonna come 282 00:19:17,022 --> 00:19:21,782 back and then many many years later metagross solved five comes out and even 283 00:19:21,782 --> 00:19:22,682 though technically it's not 284 00:19:22,682 --> 00:19:26,962 a sequel it's a prequel it's like yeah well he's never gonna go away yeah. 285 00:19:28,029 --> 00:19:33,309 Well, I remember after Snake had technically died, and I told you, 286 00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:34,849 another Metal Gear is coming. 287 00:19:34,989 --> 00:19:37,889 And I remember your answer was, what? 288 00:19:38,569 --> 00:19:43,769 How? And you were just kind of pissed off, dude. And then you were like, why? 289 00:19:44,269 --> 00:19:47,029 Why? And I was like, because it's a moneymaker. 290 00:19:47,829 --> 00:19:55,969 You know what I mean? Why would, I don't know, why would syrup companies stop making maple syrup? 291 00:19:56,329 --> 00:20:02,049 That's their go-to. You know, why would, why would you stop selling? I don't know. 292 00:20:03,329 --> 00:20:06,389 I don't know. I don't even know how to put this. Why would, why would Cheez-It 293 00:20:06,389 --> 00:20:08,689 stop selling different versions of Cheez-It crackers? 294 00:20:09,189 --> 00:20:12,489 That's their money maker. That's what they're going to go to. That's what they know. 295 00:20:13,089 --> 00:20:17,849 It was because, it was because it felt so finite. Like it felt so done. 296 00:20:18,209 --> 00:20:20,949 Like it felt so final. That's what I've been saying. So final. 297 00:20:21,049 --> 00:20:24,629 Like for me, at least when you played four, it felt like it was done. 298 00:20:24,949 --> 00:20:28,209 It was like, cause you sell what happened to them. you you but then 299 00:20:28,209 --> 00:20:34,169 what ruins that fucking game is you go through so you beat the game and then 300 00:20:34,169 --> 00:20:37,789 there's credits and then out of nowhere there's a cut scene that cut scene goes 301 00:20:37,789 --> 00:20:43,929 on for almost an hour after you beat the game then there's more you got you 302 00:20:43,929 --> 00:20:45,809 gotta keep your options open man, 303 00:20:46,449 --> 00:20:52,469 i mean now you never have it he doesn't own it anymore so yeah but you never 304 00:20:52,469 --> 00:20:54,689 know man you might He might buy it back. 305 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:59,309 I mean, that's what happened with David Jaffe. He had the rights to Twisted 306 00:20:59,309 --> 00:21:05,569 Metal, sold them to Sony, and then Sony, you know, basically fucked his game 307 00:21:05,569 --> 00:21:06,789 up. I'm sorry, Twisted Metal 4 sucked. 308 00:21:07,989 --> 00:21:13,049 And then he eventually bought all the characters back, because he went on to do, was it Rogue Trip? 309 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:17,529 With a single track, which was a fantastic car battle game. You could system 310 00:21:17,529 --> 00:21:19,629 link that game, too, on the PlayStation 1. 311 00:21:20,169 --> 00:21:26,749 And I spoke to, I did an interview with Jaffe, and And I told him like how excited 312 00:21:26,749 --> 00:21:31,589 he was to get met or why he came back to do Twisted Metal. 313 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:34,649 He was like, I had to buy my characters back because they weren't going to do 314 00:21:34,649 --> 00:21:37,009 anything with them. They're basically going to kill them off. 315 00:21:37,629 --> 00:21:41,549 And so he literally out of his own money bought the rights to his characters 316 00:21:41,549 --> 00:21:47,709 back, made Twisted Metal black and was so pissed off at Sony because it was 317 00:21:47,709 --> 00:21:51,029 a mature rated Twisted Metal game and they would not promote it for him. 318 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:58,109 And he said he said then I'm done with them so if I was Microsoft, 319 00:21:58,689 --> 00:22:03,849 or Nintendo I would definitely call Jaffe up and said hey what about making 320 00:22:03,849 --> 00:22:08,789 a Twisted Metal bring Twisted Metal back you got the Twisted Metal series out on Hulu or whatever it is. 321 00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:14,871 How about bringing that series back and we're behind you 100%? 322 00:22:15,031 --> 00:22:16,611 Because when's the last car battle game you played? 323 00:22:16,851 --> 00:22:19,511 You know what I mean? It's like a dead franchise. Bring it back, dude. 324 00:22:20,351 --> 00:22:22,571 Yeah, that's definitely been a while since I played those. 325 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:26,971 So always keep that door open, man. Always keep that door open indeed. 326 00:22:27,151 --> 00:22:31,231 And I think you're talking about Metal Gear and there was other versions of 327 00:22:31,231 --> 00:22:32,451 Metal Gear that people don't know about. 328 00:22:32,691 --> 00:22:35,811 So the Game Boy Color had the very first handheld version of it, 329 00:22:35,851 --> 00:22:38,891 which was called Metal Gear ghost babble which more or 330 00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:41,991 less was metal gear solid i'm sorry metal gear 2 which 331 00:22:41,991 --> 00:22:44,651 is on the on the nes more or less with a little bit 332 00:22:44,651 --> 00:22:48,051 of one sprinkled in there did you ever play that one i believe i and i 333 00:22:48,051 --> 00:22:52,511 believe i gave you my copy yeah a long time ago you might have made of yeah 334 00:22:52,511 --> 00:22:57,491 you might have yeah that was a long time ago then yeah yeah but ghost babble 335 00:22:57,491 --> 00:23:03,151 and then we talk about more portables there was a metal gear on the psp playstation 336 00:23:03,151 --> 00:23:07,211 portable a very unique one oh no you You want to go that one, okay? 337 00:23:07,371 --> 00:23:12,611 It was called Portable Ops Plus, which was basically Metal Gear Online, 338 00:23:12,971 --> 00:23:16,231 really, because it wasn't that story-driven. 339 00:23:16,511 --> 00:23:19,071 It was more about the multiplayer function on the go, right? 340 00:23:20,011 --> 00:23:24,771 It was cool, but it wasn't Metal Gear. I mean, not authentically. 341 00:23:25,231 --> 00:23:30,211 But the one I was going to refer to, if you could bring that up now, is Metal Gear Acid. 342 00:23:31,151 --> 00:23:36,011 I don't have it on me. I don't know where my box is. I have the cartridge only, 343 00:23:36,111 --> 00:23:37,131 but I don't know what my box is. 344 00:23:37,571 --> 00:23:41,031 Man, Metal Gear Asset and Metal Gear Asset 2, arguably one of the most unique 345 00:23:41,031 --> 00:23:44,851 versions of Metal Gear ever made, if you haven't played it, for the PlayStation Portable. 346 00:23:44,931 --> 00:23:47,531 It was a Metal Gear turn-based card game. 347 00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,651 When you would think about that statement back in the day, I mean, 348 00:23:51,671 --> 00:23:53,831 this is what I miss about gaming. 349 00:23:53,991 --> 00:23:57,131 It was like, they would take chances on a show like that. You know what I mean? 350 00:23:57,171 --> 00:24:01,471 Like, somebody thought, let's try making a Metal Gear card game, 351 00:24:01,571 --> 00:24:03,751 right? Like, that would never happen now. 352 00:24:04,551 --> 00:24:09,811 Yeah and i think that spawned i could be wrong but dating it i think that spawned, 353 00:24:10,331 --> 00:24:13,331 other card games like s and k card fighter clash 354 00:24:13,331 --> 00:24:19,251 oh wow and then and then eventually capcom came out with their own little card 355 00:24:19,251 --> 00:24:22,371 game street fighter street fighter card game i think you could play it right 356 00:24:22,371 --> 00:24:26,631 now on on your phones where it has not just street fighter but it has like other 357 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:31,751 characters from other capcom games as well they did a card they did a card battle game as as well. 358 00:24:32,351 --> 00:24:37,691 And it just showed that it can be done if it's done the right way and you have the right. 359 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,960 The right layout as far as the characters and their weak points, 360 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,920 strong points, all that stuff. 361 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,880 Yeah, Metal Gear Acid. Didn't Metal Gear Acid come with 3D glasses, too? 362 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:53,980 Metal Gear Acid 2 did. Metal Gear Acid 2 did, yeah. Yeah, because they changed... 363 00:24:53,980 --> 00:24:56,640 That was another feature I thought was dope, dude. You could play it in freaking 3D. 364 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,640 Yeah, yeah. They changed the art style. It was more of a cel-shaded art style on the second one. 365 00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:05,580 Because the first, they were kind of mold... Not mold. 366 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,300 Just boring. They weren't really really great polygons or 367 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,620 the the the added the cell shading kind of made it more pop 368 00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:17,140 a little bit right and there's a 3d aspect to it like you said but it would 369 00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:22,240 only work though if you had the psv 1000 the fat boy it wouldn't work with the 370 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,760 other ones and so you're going to slide it in the little cardboard thing and 371 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,380 if you think about this this is before vr glasses this is before, 372 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,980 google google uh cardboard like this 373 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:37,200 is kind of ahead of its time in some respects would you you agree with 374 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,920 that yeah absolutely and this 375 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960 goes back to like this goes back to i think kojima's innovation 376 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800 he's all he was always striving to innovate you know 377 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:52,160 totally and and there is a metal gear acid it's what it's hard to describe it 378 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,820 without playing it but you basically get a round of cards and each card set 379 00:25:55,820 --> 00:26:00,200 kind of has like its own like you move x faces you can use a card weapon card 380 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800 you can use a grenade card or something like I thought, you're using your cards 381 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,020 to move forward in the game. 382 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,220 And it's kind of like a tactics game, but you need the cards to do it. 383 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:09,920 And it's all digital, of course. 384 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,460 It was such a unique and fun experience. And honestly, I would love to have 385 00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:15,980 that ported on the Switch or something. 386 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,960 That'd be cool to play on there. Or even on your phone, that'd be cool. 387 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:20,460 But that's yet to happen, of course. 388 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:24,420 But Metal Gear Solid has gone through such a weird change of... 389 00:26:25,518 --> 00:26:28,318 Direction so medical solid 5 came out 390 00:26:28,318 --> 00:26:31,258 not that long ago and that one actually has it's voiced 391 00:26:31,258 --> 00:26:34,018 by because we can't talk about mgs and not bring up 392 00:26:34,018 --> 00:26:37,258 the voice of solid snake right one of the most voices 393 00:26:37,258 --> 00:26:39,938 in the video game world which is 394 00:26:39,938 --> 00:26:42,658 voiced by david hater and i don't know if i told you this 395 00:26:42,658 --> 00:26:46,458 or not but i actually met david hater in my travels no 396 00:26:46,458 --> 00:26:50,138 way and that's good and i'll 397 00:26:50,138 --> 00:26:53,118 tell you about the interaction so david hater 398 00:26:53,118 --> 00:26:56,078 kind of like you is very passionate about what he does but 399 00:26:56,078 --> 00:26:58,898 he always every knows him for metal gear and whatever 400 00:26:58,898 --> 00:27:01,718 that's great but a lot of people don't know he's actually a 401 00:27:01,718 --> 00:27:04,638 screenwriter first and so he wrote the 402 00:27:04,638 --> 00:27:08,938 script for the original x-men movies and people 403 00:27:08,938 --> 00:27:11,958 don't also know this he arguably wrote one of the greatest comic movies 404 00:27:11,958 --> 00:27:15,078 of all time and i think even you like this movie is the 405 00:27:15,078 --> 00:27:18,978 watchman oh yes for sure and 406 00:27:18,978 --> 00:27:21,698 i was talking about like hey you 407 00:27:21,698 --> 00:27:24,478 know i think you're although i love your voice and obviously it's so 408 00:27:24,478 --> 00:27:27,398 iconic your writing is really amazing because 409 00:27:27,398 --> 00:27:31,378 obviously to me there still has yet to be a comic book movie as perfect as the 410 00:27:31,378 --> 00:27:36,478 watchman like as far as like from page to screen man it's perfect right almost 411 00:27:36,478 --> 00:27:39,918 near other than the ending it's almost perfect and he was really he was really 412 00:27:39,918 --> 00:27:46,158 thankful for that and he pulls me close to his ear and he goes and he says, Uncle Dad, you're good. 413 00:27:48,298 --> 00:27:51,978 Oh, man. Awesome. That's awesome. 414 00:27:52,158 --> 00:27:57,038 Yeah, so Watchmen, man, I love that movie so much and I did not read the comic 415 00:27:57,038 --> 00:28:00,898 or graphic novel, some people want to call it, at all. 416 00:28:02,138 --> 00:28:07,778 Just not a reader. I've never been a comic book reader and I freaking love that movie, dude. 417 00:28:07,858 --> 00:28:10,318 I love the series. HBO series I loved as well. 418 00:28:10,638 --> 00:28:13,778 I thought it was very, very well done. I actually haven't seen the series. 419 00:28:14,638 --> 00:28:17,558 I think you'll like it, man. Yeah, I think you'll like it. 420 00:28:17,598 --> 00:28:23,778 It's definitely modernized, but it's significant in the times, even now. 421 00:28:24,278 --> 00:28:29,398 It came out, what, a couple years back, but it's still significant to this day 422 00:28:29,398 --> 00:28:31,618 of kind of like what's going on. It's very well done, dude. 423 00:28:31,858 --> 00:28:33,458 The cinematics are sick. The 424 00:28:33,458 --> 00:28:36,798 filming, I think they got a bunch of awards for like effects and stuff. 425 00:28:37,138 --> 00:28:40,038 I liked it a lot. lot yeah so 426 00:28:40,038 --> 00:28:42,798 you know solid snake himself is a part of that but then 427 00:28:42,798 --> 00:28:46,278 he wasn't asked to be in number five there really 428 00:28:46,278 --> 00:28:49,598 hasn't that to this day hasn't been a reason as to why he 429 00:28:49,598 --> 00:28:53,518 wasn't asked they just said they didn't ask him and they brought keifer sutherland 430 00:28:53,518 --> 00:28:59,478 in to be the voice of metal gear solid and while it's not a bad it's not a bad 431 00:28:59,478 --> 00:29:04,178 take on the voice it just sometimes feels like he's trying too hard and keifer 432 00:29:04,178 --> 00:29:07,538 you know he's obviously a great actor you know lost Boys, 24, 433 00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:11,638 and some other good stuff, I think. He was also in a great horror movie called Mirrors. 434 00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:16,398 But, you know, I think it's hard to replicate who Saltzang is. 435 00:29:17,218 --> 00:29:19,898 Don't forget Stand By Me. Who's in Stand By Me? 436 00:29:21,512 --> 00:29:22,892 Oh, wow. Good pull. 437 00:29:25,512 --> 00:29:30,372 Yeah, you know, so it's hard for me to just get into that voice and get into that character. 438 00:29:30,532 --> 00:29:33,492 I can imagine it's a challenge, but Metal Gear Solid V, in my opinion, 439 00:29:33,492 --> 00:29:37,292 was like the weakest of all the Metal Gears. Because, I don't know, it just wasn't needed. 440 00:29:37,532 --> 00:29:40,532 You know, it should have just ended at four, right? We didn't need to go five. 441 00:29:41,052 --> 00:29:44,412 And now we're going to probably, you know, see another one one day. 442 00:29:44,512 --> 00:29:46,132 I mean, I know there's that horrible... 443 00:29:46,632 --> 00:29:50,932 Do you know about that Metal Gear game? It's like a horrible online zombie shooter. 444 00:29:51,512 --> 00:29:55,872 I heard about it yeah yeah horrible oh my god horrible, 445 00:29:57,612 --> 00:30:05,172 it's horror bull horrible going back to you were talking about how they got 446 00:30:05,172 --> 00:30:12,132 keifer and when you do something like that to a series voice acting is a big deal man because, 447 00:30:12,812 --> 00:30:20,092 it changes just the the gameplay aspect of it because yeah you're used to a 448 00:30:20,092 --> 00:30:23,932 certain voice and that's always been attached to that character. 449 00:30:24,492 --> 00:30:28,812 Another series, which was inspired by Metal Gear and they changed the voice 450 00:30:28,812 --> 00:30:31,052 actor, which pissed me off, was Splinter Cell. 451 00:30:31,532 --> 00:30:34,872 Oh, yeah. So when they did Splinter Cell, remember, and they... 452 00:30:35,916 --> 00:30:38,676 And they had, what's his name? What can I think of his name right now? 453 00:30:39,276 --> 00:30:41,556 Michael Ironside, right? Michael Ironside. 454 00:30:42,516 --> 00:30:47,676 And then they went away from him in, I forgot what Spinner said, 455 00:30:47,716 --> 00:30:48,596 Conviction, I think it was. 456 00:30:48,796 --> 00:30:55,336 And they went away from him. I was like, dude, that's, Michael Ironside is Sam Fisher. 457 00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,236 He always will be Sam Fisher. What the fuck are you guys doing? 458 00:30:58,896 --> 00:31:02,336 And it just changed it, man. It changed the feel right away, man. 459 00:31:02,476 --> 00:31:05,976 You can't do that shit. and i was hoping 460 00:31:05,976 --> 00:31:08,816 when i heard that he's not the voice i 461 00:31:08,816 --> 00:31:12,396 was hoping that he would 462 00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:15,436 say no i'm not doing it because my loyalty is with 463 00:31:15,436 --> 00:31:18,216 kojima and the creator but when i found 464 00:31:18,216 --> 00:31:21,316 out that he wasn't even asked i was like i 465 00:31:21,316 --> 00:31:25,116 i can see already the writing 466 00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:28,316 on the wall with konami and then the stuff came out 467 00:31:28,316 --> 00:31:31,296 later they're letting you know kojima go and and 468 00:31:31,296 --> 00:31:34,336 i was like man this is as as as tired 469 00:31:34,336 --> 00:31:38,236 as i was of the metal gear franchise at that time that's 470 00:31:38,236 --> 00:31:40,916 not a good decision that was bad dude that was 471 00:31:40,916 --> 00:31:44,096 really bad so i hope he comes back with a vengeance something 472 00:31:44,096 --> 00:31:46,836 better than death you know what's interesting too about 473 00:31:46,836 --> 00:31:50,196 you saying all that about the splinter cell thing is that 474 00:31:50,196 --> 00:31:52,896 splinter cell blacklist and i'm reading 475 00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:57,676 it right now michael ironside him michael ironside himself himself said he actually 476 00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:02,116 just didn't want to do it he didn't want to do it because he felt that the script 477 00:32:02,116 --> 00:32:06,136 wasn't good enough he felt that it was too gory too bloody so that's why he 478 00:32:06,136 --> 00:32:10,836 chose not to do it so ultimately michael ironside is the one to blame why he 479 00:32:10,836 --> 00:32:12,776 wasn't in black blitz hold on. 480 00:32:13,316 --> 00:32:17,976 Michael ironside said it was too bloody and too gory yeah he goes when they 481 00:32:17,976 --> 00:32:22,856 said when they sent me for the or is it uh yeah when i got the script it was 482 00:32:22,856 --> 00:32:28,536 very stiff very inflexible and a lot of a a lot of blood and violence and I didn't want to do it. 483 00:32:30,086 --> 00:32:32,206 Tell me from the guy who did Starship Troopers? 484 00:32:34,506 --> 00:32:39,746 I mean, he's also old now, right? That was perfect pop, by the way. 485 00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:43,866 He sounded like old man on that cop. I did, actually. I know. 486 00:32:45,926 --> 00:32:50,526 Let me tell you about Metal Gear Solid, Sonny. Oh, man. 487 00:32:51,826 --> 00:32:56,786 To wrap everything up here about Metal Gear, this wasn't about a history of 488 00:32:56,786 --> 00:32:59,026 Metal Gear, just to chat about our memories of Metal Gear. 489 00:33:00,206 --> 00:33:04,806 And honestly Metal Gear Solid will always mean a lot to me forever it will even 490 00:33:04,806 --> 00:33:09,966 though I don't really play it as much as I used to what's funny is am I going 491 00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,186 to get the remake of Delta of Metal Gear Solid? 492 00:33:12,346 --> 00:33:16,406 I haven't played 3 in so long and I want to replay it because that was my favorite, 493 00:33:17,966 --> 00:33:22,806 you know what on the last episode you did a code corner I got a code corner for this episode, 494 00:33:24,186 --> 00:33:27,586 the code corner for Metal Gear Solid 3 if you 495 00:33:27,586 --> 00:33:30,566 when you play the boss where he's an old sniper 496 00:33:30,566 --> 00:33:33,346 i think i can't remember his name exactly but the 497 00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:36,066 the sniper who's an old man when you get 498 00:33:36,066 --> 00:33:39,906 into that mission save the game when you get to that boss fight save the game 499 00:33:39,906 --> 00:33:45,946 cancel the game out or you know close the game turn on the ps2 do it where you 500 00:33:45,946 --> 00:33:51,046 can actually select the system clock go to system clock fast forward the the 501 00:33:51,046 --> 00:33:53,786 the internal date to like, I don't know, five, 502 00:33:53,926 --> 00:33:59,286 10 years, just X months, just like more than five years, then boot the game up and play. 503 00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:04,006 What will happen is whoever that boss's name is, the old sniper, 504 00:34:04,746 --> 00:34:07,466 he will be dead because he died of old age. 505 00:34:08,806 --> 00:34:11,866 And you skip the entire boss fight. 506 00:34:13,686 --> 00:34:19,246 That's awesome. Remember the trick with Metal Gear Solid 1 when you first faced 507 00:34:19,246 --> 00:34:21,826 Psycho Mantis? Which one, which trick? 508 00:34:22,746 --> 00:34:27,046 You'd plug the controller into port number two? Yes, yeah, yeah. 509 00:34:27,506 --> 00:34:30,766 Yeah, you plugged it into port number two, and you would kill him because he 510 00:34:30,766 --> 00:34:32,486 couldn't read your mind anymore? 511 00:34:33,286 --> 00:34:37,266 Yeah. That was awesome, dude. And when you first started the game, 512 00:34:37,466 --> 00:34:40,546 I remember I first started the game, and he's talking to you. 513 00:34:40,586 --> 00:34:42,386 I forgot what character I was talking to you. They're like, oh, 514 00:34:42,546 --> 00:34:46,166 I see you like Contra and Castlevania. 515 00:34:46,226 --> 00:34:48,226 I was like, dude, how's your – what? 516 00:34:48,646 --> 00:34:51,766 Like, what the hell? They're reading the memory card. shit like that dude was 517 00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:55,266 freaking genius man yeah that stuff was freaking cool, 518 00:34:55,766 --> 00:35:00,426 so i mean even that trick of like uh killing the boss by old age like who would 519 00:35:00,426 --> 00:35:05,886 have thought of that right exactly uh bad ass dude but going back to uh metal 520 00:35:05,886 --> 00:35:08,626 gear solid you're talking about i got one of the one of the things that i'm 521 00:35:08,626 --> 00:35:12,306 happy i got in my collection i got metal gear solid integral. 522 00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:16,246 Which was the japanese only release came with 523 00:35:16,246 --> 00:35:19,826 another disc extra content and then 524 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:22,626 i got something that was kind of forgot about and it was 525 00:35:22,626 --> 00:35:25,486 released here in the states i don't know if you're familiar 526 00:35:25,486 --> 00:35:32,026 with this as a fan but the metal gear solid 2 the document yeah the documents 527 00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:37,226 of metal gear solid 2 and it's for for a fanboy this is great because it goes 528 00:35:37,226 --> 00:35:43,526 over like the creation of the game sound development script the polygon models, 529 00:35:44,006 --> 00:35:50,866 It talks about the first, they give you a first look at the new VR training in Substance. 530 00:35:51,086 --> 00:35:52,746 A bunch of special footage on it. 531 00:35:53,795 --> 00:35:57,315 If you are a Metal Gear fan, this is pretty tight. What were you going to say? 532 00:35:57,815 --> 00:36:01,235 Well, what's funny about the documented Metal Gear Solid 2 is I never understood 533 00:36:01,235 --> 00:36:06,435 why it was a PS2 game, technically, but really it was just a DVD. Yeah. 534 00:36:07,195 --> 00:36:08,955 Because it comes in a PS2 case. 535 00:36:10,055 --> 00:36:14,595 It's a real PS2 case. It says PS2 on top and everything. I think it even has a greeting. 536 00:36:16,415 --> 00:36:17,015 It has. 537 00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:22,835 It has an instruction manual. It's not an instruction manual. 538 00:36:22,835 --> 00:36:23,975 I've got the book inside, dude. 539 00:36:24,555 --> 00:36:26,695 Yeah, it's pretty good. I think that's why I bought it, because I was like, 540 00:36:26,735 --> 00:36:29,975 why did they put it in a PS2 case? You know what? I'm getting it. 541 00:36:30,535 --> 00:36:35,335 Even though I was... I don't know. I don't think it's worth that much money, 542 00:36:35,435 --> 00:36:39,015 but Metal Gear Solid fans are definitely out for it. 543 00:36:39,195 --> 00:36:42,755 And the reason why I got that was because... 544 00:36:43,175 --> 00:36:45,975 And here's my... Do you want me to go into my story about Metal Gear Solid 2? 545 00:36:46,715 --> 00:36:49,635 You can after this. One last thing I wanted to say. Yeah, yeah. 546 00:36:49,675 --> 00:36:52,235 For sure. I want to finish with your story. 547 00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:56,695 So I just wanted to quickly tell you, very quickly, to you and our audience, 548 00:36:56,915 --> 00:37:02,475 if you like Metal Gear Solid, let me tell you, there is a convention for you. 549 00:37:02,755 --> 00:37:06,315 That's right. There is a Metal Gear Solid convention in Long Beach, California. 550 00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:10,555 It is the second year that they're doing it. It's called MGS Con 2, 551 00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:12,835 Cons of Liberty. Haha, get it? 552 00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:20,495 July 20th, 2024, the Kickstarter is live. If you are a fan of Metal Gear Solid, 553 00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,835 you've got to go check it out. I'm going to try to attend this year. 554 00:37:23,095 --> 00:37:26,155 It is just go to mgscon.com. 555 00:37:26,495 --> 00:37:29,315 And then the way you get your ticket is you support their Kickstarter. 556 00:37:29,635 --> 00:37:33,995 They have prices as low as $5 and tiers all the way up to $100. 557 00:37:34,455 --> 00:37:41,095 And talking about Metal Gear Solid 3, they're going to try to have the woman 558 00:37:41,095 --> 00:37:44,195 who sung the theme song of Metal Gear Solid 3, 559 00:37:44,815 --> 00:37:49,375 if they can meet their goal, Cynthia Harrell will actually be there and perform 560 00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:52,015 Snake Eater live in front of everybody. Oh, wow. 561 00:37:52,985 --> 00:37:57,905 That'd be awesome. If you go, are you going to drop acid? Huh? 562 00:37:58,105 --> 00:37:59,565 Am I just solid acid? No? Nah. 563 00:38:00,285 --> 00:38:04,905 Will they let you smoke a cigarette inside? Because if they don't, that's bullshit. 564 00:38:05,885 --> 00:38:09,645 Can I walk around with a cardboard box? Like, come on. Oh, that'd be sick. 565 00:38:10,025 --> 00:38:12,945 That'd be sick if you go over there, dude, and what does it just say on there? 566 00:38:13,045 --> 00:38:15,445 Food or something like that? And just walk around? Dee-dee-dee. 567 00:38:15,885 --> 00:38:19,545 And have like a little slot, and that way somebody finds you, 568 00:38:19,545 --> 00:38:22,165 and you're like, oh, look at that guy in a box. You can put up the exclamation mark. 569 00:38:23,725 --> 00:38:25,985 And then be like what was that noise. 570 00:38:28,045 --> 00:38:30,785 Oh man yes go check that out 571 00:38:30,785 --> 00:38:34,165 on instagram as well at mgs con and please 572 00:38:34,165 --> 00:38:36,945 uh this is not a paid promotion this is just something i'm doing because i'm 573 00:38:36,945 --> 00:38:40,165 a fan so mgs con 2 memes jeans 574 00:38:40,165 --> 00:38:43,725 and snakes a metal gear fan convention mgs 575 00:38:43,725 --> 00:38:46,465 con 2 cons of liberty kickstarter go check 576 00:38:46,465 --> 00:38:49,805 them out all right let's hear your story good sir yeah real 577 00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:52,605 quick on metal gear solid 2 just read the the back right now because we're 578 00:38:52,605 --> 00:38:55,345 talking about armageddon and we might piss 579 00:38:55,345 --> 00:39:01,825 mike off but the powerful music score was composed by harry gregson williams 580 00:39:01,825 --> 00:39:10,365 who also did enemy of the state the rock and armageddon wow there you go that's 581 00:39:10,365 --> 00:39:13,685 why so here's here's my story about metal gear Solid 2. 582 00:39:13,965 --> 00:39:21,065 And one of the reasons why Hideo dropped on my list of favorite developers. 583 00:39:21,365 --> 00:39:24,385 And is it petty? Yes. Absolutely. 584 00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:30,845 And I'll own that. But I was such a big fan of Metal Gear Solid 1 and the Metal Gear game on NES. 585 00:39:32,365 --> 00:39:36,365 But Metal Gear Solid 2 was just revolutionary for me. 586 00:39:36,505 --> 00:39:40,425 So when they first announced Metal Gear Solid 1, when they first announced Metal 587 00:39:40,425 --> 00:39:43,505 Gear Solid 2, I could not wait for it to drop in America. 588 00:39:43,625 --> 00:39:46,465 So I imported the Japanese one 589 00:39:46,465 --> 00:39:53,105 and I found out there was a collector's edition, which cost me $250 plus. 590 00:39:53,705 --> 00:39:59,745 A lot of money back then for me, but I said, you know what? I'm going to get it. I got my PS2 chipped. 591 00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:04,385 It would be able to play Japanese games and majority of that game was in English anyway. 592 00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:08,945 So I went all out, paid for it to get chipped, 593 00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:12,545 prepaid for this collector's edition uh shout out to 594 00:40:12,545 --> 00:40:16,145 network videos no longer around but those in northern california know what network 595 00:40:16,145 --> 00:40:22,965 video is natty thank you so what comes in natty calls me up lou your metal gear's 596 00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:27,765 in fat awesome and i don't live close to this place takes me about an hour and 597 00:40:27,765 --> 00:40:31,505 a half sometimes two hours and then about three hours driving back because of. 598 00:40:32,487 --> 00:40:36,147 Because of traffic. I live in the Valley and this place is in the Bay Area, California. 599 00:40:36,367 --> 00:40:40,687 So anyways, I go pick it up and I'm super excited for this game. I bring it home. 600 00:40:41,207 --> 00:40:44,547 I got the collector's edition, man. Hell yeah. Bust open the game. 601 00:40:44,687 --> 00:40:47,387 And I'm one of those people that, you know, read the book, even though most 602 00:40:47,387 --> 00:40:48,707 of it was the Japanese at the time. 603 00:40:49,247 --> 00:40:52,887 There's a lot of English involved as well. And all the little extra stuff that comes with it. 604 00:40:52,927 --> 00:40:56,107 So I'm looking for all the extra stuff that comes with it. And it has like a 605 00:40:56,107 --> 00:40:57,267 little soundtrack with it. Cool. 606 00:40:57,867 --> 00:41:00,887 And I'm looking looking for all the other bells and whistles and there's 607 00:41:00,887 --> 00:41:08,047 really not anything and so i'm like what the hell what the hell is going on 608 00:41:08,047 --> 00:41:10,647 so i call them up and i was like hey i think there's some stuff missing out 609 00:41:10,647 --> 00:41:15,007 on my collector's edition and they're like well no and so they opened one that 610 00:41:15,007 --> 00:41:20,787 one of the workers opened one up and i was like why was this thing 250 dude i said i don't get it 611 00:41:21,207 --> 00:41:25,287 i could have just got the standard version for like 80 you know imported and 612 00:41:25,287 --> 00:41:31,167 been good he's like like no it comes with you see that baggie inside and I was 613 00:41:31,167 --> 00:41:34,547 like what baggie he's just like a little bag inside and I was like what are 614 00:41:34,547 --> 00:41:38,567 you talking about and so I open it back up again and I'm like, 615 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:46,647 what the hell is this he's like it's a lock of Kojima's hair and I said you 616 00:41:46,647 --> 00:41:52,527 mean to tell me I spent $250 and all the gas and my time to go down there pick 617 00:41:52,527 --> 00:41:55,327 that up because this has a little, 618 00:41:56,207 --> 00:41:58,967 flipping of Hideo Kojima's hair on it? 619 00:41:59,947 --> 00:42:02,807 What the fuck? I was like, dude, I was so pissed. I was like, 620 00:42:02,807 --> 00:42:07,067 what weirdo wants this shit? I got so freaking pissed, dude. 621 00:42:07,927 --> 00:42:11,327 I regret it now, but I got rid of it. 622 00:42:11,787 --> 00:42:15,427 I forgot who I gave... I was so pissed off that I spent that much money because 623 00:42:15,427 --> 00:42:16,747 this guy put his own hair in it. 624 00:42:16,947 --> 00:42:20,807 And who knows? It could have been a pube. I don't know. I didn't even look at it, man. 625 00:42:21,127 --> 00:42:26,907 I got so pissed off, man. So essentially, all I did was get the game and a soundtrack, which I... 626 00:42:27,914 --> 00:42:32,714 You can pop in the DVD into a CD player, I think, and it plays the soundtrack anyway. 627 00:42:33,174 --> 00:42:37,234 But I was like, man, I can't believe I paid that much money because it had like 628 00:42:37,234 --> 00:42:41,234 a little tiny shaving of his hair in like a dime bag, dude. 629 00:42:42,354 --> 00:42:47,014 My question is, that must be so rare because I've never seen that before. 630 00:42:47,934 --> 00:42:51,374 Yeah, that's why I say I regret getting rid of it. Because had I have it now, 631 00:42:51,594 --> 00:42:56,834 I could probably sell that for a lot of money. And I would sell it because I was so pissed off. 632 00:42:57,254 --> 00:43:00,254 But that's how i thought i was so pissed dude at 633 00:43:00,254 --> 00:43:04,934 the time man i just i just wanted to get rid of it oh i was so mad i spent that 634 00:43:04,934 --> 00:43:07,874 much money on that because there was a bunch of other stuff that came out at 635 00:43:07,874 --> 00:43:10,454 the time i forgot what it was there was a bunch of dreamcast stuff that i wanted 636 00:43:10,454 --> 00:43:13,934 it was a neo geo game that i wanted at the time i could have got for a pretty 637 00:43:13,934 --> 00:43:18,234 good price over there and i'm just like fuck dude i was sitting here with a 638 00:43:18,234 --> 00:43:19,834 freaking little bag of hair and, 639 00:43:20,374 --> 00:43:23,174 and and metal gear solid 2 and it took me forever to pop 640 00:43:23,174 --> 00:43:27,014 in metal gear solid 2 i was so pissed eventually did and the 641 00:43:27,014 --> 00:43:29,934 story just got kind of crazy from there and the middle 642 00:43:29,934 --> 00:43:32,694 gear story at least and i was done i 643 00:43:32,694 --> 00:43:35,954 was done for a while it took me a long time to play three i eventually 644 00:43:35,954 --> 00:43:39,774 got over to three and i got over it i think honestly i think acid kind of brought 645 00:43:39,774 --> 00:43:42,894 me back like you were talking about the originality of it yeah it was a card 646 00:43:42,894 --> 00:43:49,594 game but it was very very well done pick up and play fun to play and i think 647 00:43:49,594 --> 00:43:52,974 i just get i got the other ones just because because there were Metal Gear, 648 00:43:53,074 --> 00:43:55,314 and I wanted it for my collection. 649 00:43:56,234 --> 00:44:00,794 But, yeah, that was my story. Deep down, you're a Metal Gear fan, though, deep down. 650 00:44:01,894 --> 00:44:06,774 I would have to say yes, and it goes back to Solid, well, like I said, 651 00:44:06,814 --> 00:44:10,474 I enjoyed the original Metal Gear that I played on the NES, I enjoyed it. 652 00:44:10,654 --> 00:44:12,194 But Metal Gear Solid 2 was... 653 00:44:13,475 --> 00:44:20,955 As far as like influences on me and enjoyment that I had, I had a ton of fun 654 00:44:20,955 --> 00:44:25,195 with the VR missions, man, me and my friend, Jesse played the shit out of the VR missions. 655 00:44:25,215 --> 00:44:29,735 And we would, we would, we would do, we would do, you know, just time trials 656 00:44:29,735 --> 00:44:33,595 to do who get them, get them done first, the smoothest, the quickest. 657 00:44:33,675 --> 00:44:36,295 And if you could do them a different way, we did that a lot with, 658 00:44:36,295 --> 00:44:38,715 oh man, what was that one game called? 659 00:44:39,095 --> 00:44:41,355 Mirror's Edge too. We killed it with Mirror's Edge. 660 00:44:41,935 --> 00:44:46,135 Time trials, man. man. Time trials were fun. But yeah, no, I'm a fan. 661 00:44:46,495 --> 00:44:49,155 More of one, definitely not because of two with a lock of hair. 662 00:44:50,715 --> 00:44:53,895 I do have one last tidbit of information. 663 00:44:54,135 --> 00:44:59,095 Do you remember a Konami skateboarding game called Evolution Skateboarding? 664 00:44:59,535 --> 00:45:00,935 I do. Absolutely. 665 00:45:01,555 --> 00:45:05,575 Did you know that there's an entire Metal Gear Solid skateboarding level there? 666 00:45:05,695 --> 00:45:08,855 You play the Metal Gear Solid 2. Sorry, sorry. 667 00:45:09,475 --> 00:45:13,415 From Metal Gear Solid 2, the whole entire thing takes place on the big shell, 668 00:45:13,555 --> 00:45:17,735 so you can actually skateboard in the entire big shell as Solid Snake and ride it. 669 00:45:17,875 --> 00:45:20,715 I would say as Solid Snake. I remember you could be Solid Snake on that one, 670 00:45:20,775 --> 00:45:24,855 and I think I could be wrong, but I believe it used the Metal Gear Solid engine, too. 671 00:45:25,435 --> 00:45:27,595 I think it did. That's why it was in that, right? Yeah. 672 00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:33,795 I think so, yeah. Evolution of Skateboarding, if you guys can find that one, 673 00:45:33,815 --> 00:45:34,555 definitely check that out. 674 00:45:35,195 --> 00:45:38,015 Okay, that was my little little love letter to 675 00:45:38,015 --> 00:45:42,275 metal gear full of love and hate at the same time truly 676 00:45:42,275 --> 00:45:45,395 something i can't wait for and metagrassal 3 thank you 677 00:45:45,395 --> 00:45:48,135 for all the memories you gave me 20 years i can't believe 678 00:45:48,135 --> 00:45:51,195 it's been 20 years and if you haven't played all three 679 00:45:51,195 --> 00:45:53,875 check it out it really is and then delta's on the 680 00:45:53,875 --> 00:45:56,835 way so if you haven't checked it out wait for the new remake and get 681 00:45:56,835 --> 00:46:02,615 it all in 4k glory with updated content updated i i think if they're remastering 682 00:46:02,615 --> 00:46:06,775 his voice like everything's being being remastered so go check that out medical 683 00:46:06,775 --> 00:46:11,475 solid 3 delta coming out later this year you got one last thing one last thing 684 00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:16,535 do you ever think speaking of kojima do you think they ever will finish and release pt, 685 00:46:17,778 --> 00:46:20,098 Oh, probably not. Well, I don't know. Actually, I don't know now. 686 00:46:20,138 --> 00:46:22,098 Let me rephrase that because I don't know if you, 687 00:46:22,158 --> 00:46:27,038 I think you must've seen that he's partnering with Jordan Peele in this new 688 00:46:27,038 --> 00:46:30,998 movie or this movie video game where they announced that he has another video 689 00:46:30,998 --> 00:46:33,138 game coming out and he's working with Monkey Paw Productions. 690 00:46:33,538 --> 00:46:37,238 So I think if that game comes out and does well, I think we will see a form 691 00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:41,858 of PT, but maybe not like what we originally saw. Okay. 692 00:46:43,158 --> 00:46:46,758 Yeah. I think it'll be a different take on it, I think. And then just because 693 00:46:46,758 --> 00:46:48,538 of the name, I wouldn't be surprised 694 00:46:48,538 --> 00:46:53,238 if they just said, oh, this is Hideo Kojima's and Monkey Paul's PT. 695 00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:55,498 You know what I mean? Yeah. 696 00:46:56,318 --> 00:47:01,278 But I don't know. We'll see. But without further ado, I'm Uncle Dad, 697 00:47:01,398 --> 00:47:04,278 and you can find me on Instagram at Uncle Dad Talks. And with me, 698 00:47:04,338 --> 00:47:08,138 as always, is my clever co-host, Mr. 699 00:47:08,378 --> 00:47:13,718 Retro Gaming Nomad. And you can find him on Instagram at Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word, correct? 700 00:47:14,578 --> 00:47:19,018 Correct. Correct. Retro Gaming Nomad. All one word. 701 00:47:19,718 --> 00:47:22,798 On my post, I try to throw a little backstory to some of the games. 702 00:47:23,118 --> 00:47:27,158 It's not just, oh, here's what I got. Check it out. So appreciate if you guys 703 00:47:27,158 --> 00:47:31,278 kind of read, give me some tidbits and what you guys would like to see more of. That'd be awesome. 704 00:47:32,198 --> 00:47:36,438 And maybe you can post a picture of all the Metal Gear games when I post this episode up. 705 00:47:37,698 --> 00:47:38,858 I'll try to find the lock of hair. 706 00:47:40,718 --> 00:47:41,838 Just use one of your own. 707 00:47:44,418 --> 00:47:47,178 All right everybody thank you thank you so much for listening we'll see you 708 00:47:47,178 --> 00:47:49,258 all next month peace love and. 709 00:47:49,360 --> 00:48:23,268 Music.